pudge's Journal: NIE

OK, I just want to get this straight.

The Iraq NIE basically backed the case for war with Iraq. Many antiwar folks dismissed its claims that Iraq had largely rebuilt its missile and biological weapon facilities, and expanded its chemical and biological weapons programs, and so on.

The Iran NIE says that Iran stopped its work on nuclear weapons a few years back. Many antiwar folks simply accept that as true.

Call me crazy, but the only consistency I see here is that the antiwar folks believe whatever happens to be said that is less likely to lead to armed conflict.

They don't care about truth. They care about not having war, regardless of the truth.

Me? I care about truth. It's why I didn't believe the claims of WMD on the eve of the Iraq invasion, and it's why I don't believe Iran isn't working on nuclear weapons now. I don't know. I can't know. And neither can you. And when you believe something just because you WANT it to be true, you lose credibility.

Cheers.

both ways

[stoolpigeon]

I've run into folks who say the iran report is cooked up to push through political considerations, but back the report on iraq. you are right - you can't have it both ways. but a lot of people don't like facts that don't match up with what they want to hear. lex did a nice write up on this [neptunuslex.com]

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[pudge]

"The thing is, you see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to hear. Ya dig? Did you ever see Paris?" No. "Did you ever see New Delhi?" No. "Well that's it. You see what you want to see, and you hear what you want to hear." And with that, the Rock Man fell soundly asleep, leaving Oblio and Arrow, once again, all alone.

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[Miguelito]

Heh... grew up with the record of The Point and have the CD now. I ripped it into iTunes ages ago and listen to it every now and then at work still.

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[pudge]

Gotta love it. I had several of the tunes running in my head for years, but didn't hear it again until about a year ago when I found it on iTunes Music Store.

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[smittyoneeach]

Oh, I totally agree that we're looking at "Episode IV" in a high-level diplomatic chess match.
Would that the media had shred #1 of sense to say: "Bokay, we obviously aren't CC'd on all of the details surrounding this one."
Or maybe if the "Bush is a liar" meme weren't so shiny, there could be some serious thought.