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Journal pudge's Journal: Senator Mike Gravel is Cuckoo (and has no sense of humor) 4

In the debate tonight, former Senator Mike Gravel (D-AK) said the Congress should make it a felony to have soldiers in Iraq.

Almost everyone thinks such a law would be unconstitutional.

He then hearkened back to Admiral Stockdale's quip in the Vice Presidential debatem saying "My God, how did I ever get here?" I don't think the reference to Stockdale was intentional.

I am also not sure if it was intentional to reference Ronald Reagan when he said, "I won't hold their youth and inexperience against them."

But the scariest part about what he said was this:

And I got to tell you, after standing up with them, some of these people frighten me -- they frighten me. When you have mainline candidates that turn around and say that there's nothing off the table with respect to Iran, that's code for using nukes, nuclear devices.

I got to tell you, I'm president of the United States, there will be no preemptive wars with nuclear devices. To my mind, it's immoral, and it's been immoral for the last 50 years as part of American foreign policy.

Well, no, it's not code for using nukes. It's code for potentially using nukes if necessary.

"If necessary" is the key phrase. The only question is whether it is necessary. If it is not necessary, you don't do it. If it is, you do.

I could not possibly vote for someone who would take a potentially necessary option off the table for "morality," which is code for "I won't kill lots of them in order to save lots of us."

And frankly, I think anyone who would take nukes off the table is unqualified to be President.

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Senator Mike Gravel is Cuckoo (and has no sense of humor)

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  • I could not possibly vote for someone who would take a potentially necessary option off the table for "morality," which is code for "I won't kill lots of them in order to save lots of us."

    Aren't you against the government funding embryonic stem-cell research? Why?

    • by pudge ( 3605 ) * Works for Slashdot

      I could not possibly vote for someone who would take a potentially necessary option off the table for "morality," which is code for "I won't kill lots of them in order to save lots of us."

      Aren't you against the government funding embryonic stem-cell research? Why?

      What does stem cell research have to do with national security?

      (I thought the context of my comments was clear before ... if not, well, now it is. :-)

    • Aren't you against the government funding embryonic stem-cell research? Why?

      Not speaking for pudge, but - I'm not willing to kill lots of them (babies) to save any of us (adults) either.

      Besides, embryonic stem cells don't work anyways - however, umbilical cord cells and adult stem cells do. [stemcellresearch.org]
      So why, you may ask, do Democrats harp on and on about embryonic stem cell research?

      Because they can try to justify abortion with it.
    • by ncc74656 ( 45571 ) *

      Aren't you against the government funding embryonic stem-cell research? Why?

      Frozen embryos aren't killing anybody. Hajjis are.

      At risk of straying further offtopic, I suspect you'd find a substantial amount of overlap between the anti-war moonbats and those who want abortion to remain legal. Hajjis who blow up and behead people who don't think exactly as they do deserve to live, but a baby who's never harmed so much as a fly doesn't? If that's not an illustration of a worldview 180 degrees out of pha

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