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Comment: Re:Israel and terrorism (Score 1) 1656

by jonasj (#26682391) Attached to: Barack Obama Sworn In As 44th President of the US

Had a little time. Googled a bit for you. Please explain these:

Israeli forces moved about 110 Palestinians into a house, told them to stay inside, and later shelled it repeatedly

"The evidence we've gathered in two of the cases so far is exceedingly strong," said Fred Abrahams, a senior researcher with Human Rights Watch working in the Gaza Strip. "All the research so far suggests they shot civilians that were leaving their homes with white flags." Along with the white flag incidents, Human Rights Watch is calling for an international investigation into widespread charges that Israel prevented medical teams from helping wounded Palestinians trapped in their homes and needlessly demolished hundreds of houses, including dozens in Ezbt Abed Rabbo. "This was not a rogue unit," said Abrahams. "The needless civilian deaths resulted from concrete decisions made by the military."

Israeli soldiers entering the village: attempted to bulldoze houses with civilians inside; killed civilians trying to escape under the protection of white flags; opened fire on an ambulance attempting to reach the wounded; used indiscriminate force in a civilian area and fired white phosphorus shells.

At least 40 people were killed and 55 injured when Israeli artillery shells landed outside a United Nations-run school in Gaza, UN officials have said. [...] The UN says there were no militants in the compound

Yay, a school!

About 500 people including patients were huddled in a Gaza City hospital that suffered a "direct hit" in an Israeli air strike Thursday, the international Red Cross said, condemning the incident as unacceptable.

And a hospital. It just keeps getting better, doesn't it?

Outrage as Israel bombs UN HQ, hospital, school and media building

The U.N. suspended food deliveries to Gaza and the Red Cross accused Israel of blocking medical assistance after forces fired on aid workers, killing two

Israel denies Gaza access to clean water

- all that, plus shooting children directly in the head: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/palestinianauthority/4279102/Bullets-in-the-brain-shrapnel-in-the-spine-the-terrible-injuries-suffered-by-children-of-Gaza.html

Your country is a fascist state committing full scale genocide.

Comment: Re:Israel and terrorism (Score 1) 1656

by jonasj (#26604771) Attached to: Barack Obama Sworn In As 44th President of the US

I'm sorry, I've been incredible busy the last few days and still is, but go to reddit and try doing some searches for "israel", "israeli" and "gaza" from articles within the last month, and set sort to "top" -- you'll find the articles I talked about and many others. Or search specifically for the ones I talked about.

I am afraid that you are the one to have fallen for propaganda, moreso than I.

I'm sorry I don't have more time right now.

Comment: Israel and terrorism (Score 1) 1656

by jonasj (#26550115) Attached to: Barack Obama Sworn In As 44th President of the US

Yeah, because firing two rockets and killing ten people is obviously far worse than bombing a huge area and killing a thousand.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but seriously:

I'm half Danish and I live in Denmark. The Danes tend to be rather proud of the resistance movement that they had during the nazi occupation in the 1940's -- and I can totally understand why. Even though killing people is generally not a nice thing, I certainly cannot say that it was wrong of them to resist the nazi occupation, including by killing Germans. Likewise, I cannot say that it is wrong of the Palestinians to resist the zionist occupation, including by killing Israelis. What Israel is doing to the Palestinians amounts to an ethnical cleansing strikingly similar to what happened in Europe in the second world war.

I assume that you don't agree, but then how do you explain all the reports about Israeli soldiers shooting children up close in cold blood? Or herding large number of civilians into a building and then bombing it? What about the graffiti the soldiers had written in Gaza with statements like "Death to all arabs"? I can look up the links for you if you want me to.

At first glance it might seem odd that a people who only 65 years ago were victims of such horrible acts would turn around and do the same thing to others, but it's really not that strange; it's a common pattern -- just think of how people who were abused as children tend to be the ones who themselves abuse children later in their lifes! It really comes down to not being able to forgive the terrible things that have been done to you, and therefore hanging on to the suffering, and then, unintentionally, ending up perpetuating the same kind of actions. I have observed that kind of pattern in my own life, where I have treated people who were close to me badly, and later thought "Why in the world did I act like that", and then realized that I had been similarly treated badly earlier in my life and had not fully recovered from it, and that was what was causing my behavior. What we're seeing in Israel's behaviour is just the same thing as the bullied kid who then goes on to bully other kids -- just on a far larger scale. It's what happens when you cannot *let go* of what was done to you.

I'm sorry to have to tell you the unpleasant truth that you seem to be unaware of, but Israel's policies and military actions are inherently racist. You and everybody reading this ought to, for starters, watch this 9-minute clip from 2006, during that wave of the Israel-Lebanon war. It's an interview with a British politician who talks about the background of the conflict, and it is simply one of the clearest, well put things I have ever heard anyone say about this whole subject.

Comment: Re:Nokia open sourced Qt under the LGPL (Score 1) 262

by jonasj (#26545715) Attached to: Ubuntu Mobile Looks At Qt As GNOME Alternative

Of course it was, it's the GPL, nothing more, nothing less.

No, the Gnu compiler collection does not require that every application compiled with it be licensed under the GPL, that would be absurd.

Huh?? True, it doesn't, and the GIMP doesn't require every image edited with it to be GPL-licensed, and orange juice doesn't require anyone drinking it to first dance a happy little dance while singing a song about the underpant gnomes from south park! But what in the world does ANY of those facts have to do with this discussion? Nobody here suggested that the GNU compiler collection required that! I know Obama promised change, but if he's already changed the fundamental laws of debate such that any point can now be refuted by saying the word "No" followed by stating a completely unrelated fact, then that's more than I had expected!

No, as I mentioned before, I am referring to the restrictions on the Free edition.

Ah, but now you're talking about the QPL -- an entirely different license. In you original post you consistently referred to the GPL-licensed Qt.

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