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Okay, so I am installing the PC that I made for my sister. She's a student, so I thought it would be nice to install DVD playing software. I mean: I never do that on any system because we have a very nice DVD player next to our TV, thank you very much. I don't see why I would want to watch a DVD on a computer screen if I can watch it on a 89cm TV 16:9 TV screen.

Of course, for my sister the matter is different. She will have this machine in Brussels and it will have to be a work and an entertainment tool. Well, the combo drive I bought for the machine came with PowerDVD (and also some crappy Nero Express OEM thing.. yuck!). So I decide: "I have this DVD player deliverd with it", lets use that. Can't be too bad.

Well it is! I took the fist DVD within handreach after installation (No, not a pr0n DVD... it was "The Green Mile"), insert it, push play and...

"Error Code: F4D41436

The TV Out port of your display card is not working properly."

So, being curious in nature I push the "Details" button which results in:

"This copy protected disc can not be played when the TV out function is enabled."

WTF? I want to watch it on the computer screen, not on TV out. Besides, even if I wanted to see it over TV out, it should work. Fuckers!
I don't get this: most new graphic cards come with a TV-out port and about the only use of that port is to watch movies on your TV instead of on your (crappy) monitor. And now they block that?

After searching on half a dozen newsgroups it seems that it's a NVidia driver issue (which is weird, because people with ATI cards also reported the error). If you take older drivers, it should work. Or -of course- if you disable the TV Out. (Which a normal user wouldn't find out in the first place)

Fuck them all! I downloaded VLC, as I should have in the first place, instead of hoping that some crap software would work on a cheap machine. Yeah, it isn't 100% userfriendly, but my sister will (have to) cope, and it played "The Green Mile" perfectly with menus and subtitles and all.

Bah... Treating me as a criminal because I just wanted to *watch* a given legally purchased DVD. Thank you very much "Money-Horny-Media-Companies" and "Dick-Sucking-Hardwaremakers" (you both know who you are). You got exactly what you wanted: me migrating to non-approved software. Idiots!

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  • They are afraid that someone will tape the DVD. And why would anyone do that anyway? It's a serious quality loss. People are much more likely to rip the DVD.
    • And that is completely stupid because I've got a Playstation2 and a DVD burner attached to my TV. I can record anything (including gameplay *grin*) that plays on my PS2 and burn it to DVD by pushing *one red button*.

      Apart from that: the number of people that actually know how to rip a DVD is kind of small. This annoys honest people more than it annoys pirates. Heck, some people don't even know they can burn DVD's. Recently I was at SmilingGirls place and I found out that their (kickass expensive) mac

      • DVD Shrink [dvdshrink.org] will copy all DVDs... even copy protected ones.
        • Thanks... I knew that, I met some DVD pirates at the coffee/cigarette corner here at the bank (all IT people). I do not have the intention to copy a DVD. I don't see the point, except if you have kids and don't want your expensive copy of The Beauty and the Beast (fill in any other Disney movie) killed within 3 hours by small childrens hands.

          Oh, I have the rig to re-encode easily (after all you need to re-encode). I expect the Dual to do nice work on it. I must admit: I never did it... Perhaps someday



          • Oh, I have the rig to re-encode easily (after all you need to re-encode). I expect the Dual to do nice work on it. I must admit: I never did it... Perhaps someday...

            (Isn't DVD Shrink commercial software? How can they sell software to copy DVD's without getting sued into oblivion? -- Ah, I see, it is freeware. Hmmm... Nice! Perhaps I'll give it a try anyway *grin*)

            It used to be quite some hassle. I used Nandub and a whole bunch of other tools to rip the music, rip / decode the frames, ripping subtitle
            • You Sir, have missed your career. You should have become a movie editor. You know "The Final Cut" part. I would never have even the patience to do that. ;-)
              Of course, now I can just copy your masterpiece ;-)) (I have GitS on DVD, so it should even be legal)


              • You Sir, have missed your career. You should have become a movie editor. You know "The Final Cut" part. I would never have even the patience to do that. ;-)
                Of course, now I can just copy your masterpiece ;-)) (I have GitS on DVD, so it should even be legal)

                I was glad that project was over because it was getting on my nerves :) but yes, you are free to replicate this particular string of bytes any time, in fact I would be honoured.
          • Well, I had someone sit on a DVD and break it. My roommate sometimes forgets to put them back on the shelf where I keep them*, and this time it happened to end up on the couch under someone's butt.

            *Actually it's 3 shelves, I have a few DVDs, and they are in alphabetical order. :-)

    • Some pathetic people are content to pay to watch pirate videos taken with handheld camcorders in cinemas. It just goes to show that people will buy anything.
  • Thank you very much "Money-Horny-Media-Companies" and "Dick-Sucking-Hardwaremakers" (you both know who you are). You got exactly what you wanted: me migrating to non-approved software. Idiots!
    The failure is almost certainly due to a contractual term they have with DVDCCA. That's exactly why non-DVDCCA-licensed software is so much better.
    • Most probably, but don't they understand that they are actually losing (paying) customers that way? They pissed me off in a major way, and Joe Sixpack is not going to understand what to do with such kind of error. Worse: if the OEM machine he bought comes with TV-Out disabled, he's going to be pissed because his "TV-Out doesn't work" whenever he is going to use it for the first time. (Perhaps a small homemade video he want to show on big screen)

      I mean: why the fuck would I even bother with anything tha


  • The software world is becoming a tool in the hands of lawyers and funky laws, instead of vice versa. Luckily, you don't have to work for a company to write whatever string of 1 and 0's, and the beauty is that you can replicate the string as muchas you want, wherever you want.

    As long as there are crackers, hackers and phreakers, I'm not worrying too much about the freedom of using my box, and the rights *I* have over *my* hardware and software. In the end, even the mass media resellers in the Music and Mo

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