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Comment A thought about the "Emotional" fallout. (Score 1) 367

I've given a lot of thought about emotional reactions in situations like these, and generally always conclude that the truth, while painful - leads to greater emotional stability in the long term, and thus greater happiness.

In this particular case, if your spouse is cheating on you, it's indicative of problems in your relationship. Isn't the best thing to get them out in the open to straighten them out, even if that includes divorces and harsh emotional consequences in the short term? Shouldn't it lead to greater emotional stability in the future?

Comment Re:Time to hold the government accountable (Score 1) 210

Seems you're wrong the actual stingray device can do GSM Active Key Extraction which allows them encrypt the communications. So yes the devices can be used to listen to people's calls.

If so, TFA didn't mention it - or wasn't concerned about it, at least, TFA was solely concerned about tracking.

If it's your phone you can consent to it no warrant needed.

In any event the state has no business hiding the fact these were used and how. It's one thing to protect a witnesses entirely another to intentionally deceive in discovery. To protect a witness requires the judge to agree it's needed the police/prosecutors should never be making that decision.

I agree that if they violated the state law they were wrong, and I see little reason why they would do that, but I don't see it as the heinous violation of rights (the tracking part) that everyone else seems to think it is. I think you have to a moron to "expect" that your location can't be tracked when you're using (including just having it on and with you) a cellphone.

Comment Re:Time to hold the government accountable (Score 0) 210

Do you like the idea that the police can force your phone to divulge information that can be used to locate you precisely when you have a reasonable expectation of privacy? Do you like the idea that it's not clear what happens to the data from the phones of people who aren't suspects? Do you like the idea that this could potentially be used against you?

They don't force your phone to do anything. I get that people don't like the idea that they can be tracked, but I don't have any kind of expectation that my location isn't being tracked anyway - the phone companies already know where I am, and they've already helped the police track people on numerous occasions. I don't like the idea that they don't divulge the information gathered (although the state law had been broken, it wasn't on all the cases). Lastly, if I was some master criminal, I'd be an idiot to carry around a cellphone. If I committed some crime (i.e. violated someone else's rights, I'd have no reasonable expectation that the police would hold back any tool they could use to find me.

Comment Re:Time to hold the government accountable (Score 1) 210

Police need a warrant except when in hot pursuit - if I just report my car stolen and the phone is in the glove compartment, the criminal has no reasonable expectation of privacy. If someone smashes the window of my car, and I see who it is and call the police, then they shouldn't need a warrant.

Lastly, for the millionth time, the stingray is NOT listening to people's calls, it's ONLY tracking their location.

Comment Re:Your study is bullshit. (Score 1) 210

Nobody searched anybody in this situation - they tracked a cellphone; they didn't listen in on the calls (no calls even need to have been made). The cellphone companies always had a pretty good rough estimate where you are anyway - all the stingray does is narrow down the focus. People don't like the idea of being able to be tracked, they don't want cameras with facial recognition on every corner - I get it, but they don't violate any constitutional rights.

Comment Re:Time to hold the government accountable (Score -1, Flamebait) 210

Wrong, but I don't expect an AC to actually post something worthwhile anyway. I absolutely want the police to employ whatever technology they have to in order to catch and prosecute the people WHO VIOLATE MY RIGHTS. I don't advocate them violating anyone else's rights to do it, but using a stingray isn't a violation of anyone's rights, so good for them.

Comment Re:Your study is bullshit. (Score 2) 210

Perhaps misinformed, but also poorly educated. What I was taught in public school about my constitutional rights was really just about next to nothing. But it goes well beyond either misinformed or ignorant - like the people in this thread who are willfully and without thought thinking that this issue has anything to do at all with constitutional rights. And, as it normally happens, 99% of the people getting all up in arms abut this probably didn't even read the article to find out what the problem actually is... if there even is a problem.

Comment Re:I been wondering (Score 1) 210

And why would you do that? Don't you want the police to catch petty criminals? All the device does is allow them to locate a specific cellphone. They don't listen to your calls, or know who you're calling - it just listens for the phone trying to connect to cell towers and then they triangulate a position. It's nothing the cellphone companies can't already do (and have done at the behest of the police on serious crimes), although it might be more precise and faster and easier. And we're not talking about situations where a warrant is needed, since they're not violating anyone's right to privacy. Why does everybody here want to protect criminals from the police? WTF is wrong with the world?

I mean, OK, I get it - the police have been under a microscope lately, but largely they do their jobs and protect citizens, and the ones that violate our rights need to be punished... but nothing in this article suggests that this technology is a violation of any rights at all.

Comment Re:Time to hold the government accountable (Score 0) 210

They aren't violating the supreme law of the land. I read TFA, and it looks there are two problems: 1) they may have violated STATE law (not constitutional) that requires that the use of electronic surveillance be disclosed, and 2) that overuse of this technology may render it ineffective.

In the latter case, we can assume most criminals are morons - it may come down to only being able to use the technology for petty crime in the future - so be it. In the former, there's no reason for prosecutors to not disclose that information if they actually have it. Again, read the article - they are saying sometimes the methods used to capture the criminal are not always pushed up the chain to the prosecutors. That's a problem, but it's not some heinous problem that people are making it out to be. I'm a stickler for the rules, and I think they should follow them, but I also don't like it when even petty criminals get away.

I WANT them to catch petty criminals. Idiot anarchists don't have to press charges when someone smashes the windshield of their car, or has their property "tagged" with graffiti, or their cellphone stolen. I don't care. When someone violates my rights, though, I want them caught and punished, even if it's just stealing the loose change out of my car's change holder.

Comment Re:4/5 in favor (Score 1) 751

I agree there's a lot of people that won't lift a finger if they don't have to (I question their upbringing - maybe certain values need to be instilled better in school), but I think the slackers are already slackers and are only doing the bare minimum to get by. Perhaps there ought to be some work they need to do if they're not employed, like part time doing things at public institutions - janitor, landscaping, trash pick up, I don't know - I don't like the idea of handing people money when they won't even try to improve their own lives, but there are certainly legitimately people who cannot fend for themselves because of physical or mental impairment.

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