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Comment: Re:and where is exactly the problem? (Score 1) 913

by halivar (#39014181) Attached to: Journalist Arrested By Interpol For Tweet

You sound quite informed on Jewish history, and as I cannot claim to have studied it in depth I must submit that you're more likely to be correct than I. Apologies for being simplistic about Yahweh, I had no clue you were so well informed on theology! I erred on the side of caution.

Now, if you'll just take a prostrate position for your beheading, we'll have this all wrapped up in a short bit. ;P

Comment: Re:and where is exactly the problem? (Score 1) 913

by halivar (#39012277) Attached to: Journalist Arrested By Interpol For Tweet

John 14:11 is perhaps the second-most obvious (though there are countless other examples): "Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves." In this text, he's using "in" in an existential manner; it refers to coexistence and coequality of essence and substance.

The most-most obvious, however, is John 8:58: "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM." This is the crucial one because "Yahweh" is simply ancient Hebrew for "I am." At the time, there were something like four or five extant claims to being the messiah. But the one guy calling himself Yahweh was considered a blasphemer.

Also, remember that the Jewish concept of the moshiach has changed a lot over the last two thousand years. Originally it was supposed to be war leader; like a second coming of David, to throw down the various oppressors and enslavers of the Hebrew people. After the destruction of the temple by the Romans, Judiasm has had a two-thousand-year identity crisis. Many Jews no longer believe in a moshiach. Others think the moshiach will be just an event, or an idea. A mere concept that will somehow change the world. But in the original Hebrew texts (from before 200 CE, so predating talmudic texts like the mishnah), the moshiach was definitely a person.

The magic of our first love is our ignorance that it can ever end. -- Benjamin Disraeli

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