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Journal bmetzler's Journal: Mel Gibson - The Passion 27

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Special note to all my friends. Please support Mel Gibson's effort in making his new movie, The Passion, a success. This is an important movie to me, and I hope it is important to you also. Thanks.

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WE NEED YOUR HELP! We need to get as many supporters signed up on our website as possible. While THE PASSION will most definitely be released in theaters, your participation will help to get the movie into as many theaters as possible. By taking a moment to complete the form on our website, you can increase the likelihood that Mel Gibson's THE PASSION will be shown in a theater near you. For more details, please go to:

http://www.passion-movie.com/english/support2.html

American actor, producer, and director, Mel Gibson, has recently finished making a movie called THE PASSION. The film is a vivid depiction of the last 12 hours of Jesus Christ's life starring American actor James Caviezel as Jesus and Italian actress Monica Bellucci as Mary Magdalene. To learn more about the film, visit the website:

http://www.passion-movie.com/

You can watch the trailer, see pictures, and read news about the film. You can also help support the release of THE PASSION in a movie theater near you by filling out the "Support Passion" section of the website.

Update: Several people have commented that they thought Mel Gibson was Australian. A quick check on IMDB notes his place of birth as Peekskill, New York, USA.

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  • And i'm not even christian. *sigh* i probably won't see it in the theatre, but i'm in favor of more art in more places, and i'm willing to put my name to that...
    • my not being christian has nothing to do with my not seeing it in the theatre- i only get to go to about half a dozen movies, at most, in a year. I have trouble with theatre seating, and... well, i just don't get out much.
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    • Good Question!

      This movie is important to me because as a Christian it visually reenacts the struggle my Saviour had to go through to pay the penalty for my sins.

      There are other movies that document the life of Jesus, but not a major Hollywood type movie. I think that it is wonderful that Mel Gibson has chosen to direct and produce this movie, and because of its message, I want it to be succesful.

      -Brent
  • I plan on watching the movie multiple times.
    And I'm not religious.
    And I'm not overly interested in it.
    However, with all the crap that Hollywood spews (and the amount that everyone complains about it), it seems only right to support worthwhile projects when they are actually made. Must be the open source zealot in me. ;->

    Btw, isn't Gibson Austrailian?
    • If something makes noise from many different sides of the political / religious establishments, then either it is nothing but trash, or it has somethign to it.

      jason
  • Done.

    It looks really impressive... I wonder if they'll release the DVD with subtitles.
    • That would be good. The theatrical release will have them, so my guess is that they will do so for the DVD. I doubt there will be a dubded version. Dubbing would ruin the reason for the languages used in the first place.

      jason
      • Yeah, my knowledge of the movie was a bit out of date when I posted that - I thought it would remain without subtitles or dubbing. That would be an interesting way to view the movie - all you'd see is the emotion and acting. Since most people know the history behind it, the flow of the movie would still be understandable... but I guess it would be a bit much for the "normal" audiences they're hoping to draw.

        In that case, I hope the DVD allows you to turn the subtitles off. :)
  • I think the topic of Christ is pretty well covered [imdb.com] in American cinema, but I will probably go see this movie anyway since there are hardly any decent films released around this time. It would be intersting to see film projects about other religions, like how about a similiar epic about the life of muhammed since most Americans only associate Islam with 9-11 and Israel.

    One thing that does scare me though

    Not just Jews are concerned -- the film was first questioned by a nine-member panel that included Chr

    • Ultraconservative compared to the Vatican? How the hell do you get more conservative the Vatican? I didn't think that was possible.

      Mel is an active member of Opus Dei. Very interesting and extremely powerful group, sanctioned by the Church no less. I especially enjoy their current campaign to eradicate fundalmentalist Islamic groups from the planet.

      However, I cannot judge Mel just because he belongs to Opus Dei (I doubt he is in a leadership role), but I do question his motives for making Braveheart (u

      • I do question his motives for making Braveheart (umm, where are the Knights Templars?) and Passion

        I'm not sure that I follow. I don't recall religion being a part of that movie in any way. I only saw the 1st half, though. I also don't understand the connection between that movie & the Knights Templars. I did a google, & read briefly from that Catholic Encyclopedia web site.

        What happened in the movie? Don't worry about spoilers. I'd rather discuss the movie & Mel Gibson.

        • The Knights Templar were excommunicated for usury, err... I mean witchcraft (They controlled a LOT of money).

          Apparently, Dayton was implying they had a role in the events of the time, and Mel's Catholic Connection caused him to remove them.
        • Knights Templar

          An obscure, but once powerful group of warrior monks, the Knights Templar are an enigma, a mystery. The organization was created during the First Crusade and charged itself with protecting the Holy Lands and all pilgrims who traveled there. After they returned to France and England, the Catholic Church bestowed on them absolute power, in other words the Knights Templar only answered to the Pope. No King, Government, or Church leader had any authority over the Knights Templar.

          Sometime after
          • Thanks for the explanations [the 1 to me & the the 1 to gmhowell]. They're impressive. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about history to comment.

            The thing that really fascinates me is the way that history ebbs & flows. I'll definitely keep your thoughts @ the back of my head until something comes up.
          • This seems dubious to me. First of all, your citation is the only mention that I've found of Templars at Bannockburn. Or even any knights at all on the Scottish side. The closest that I've found is mention of mounted infantry (unarmored, lightly armed cavalry). The key to the victory seems to have been the use of the schiltron, a tightly-grouped formation of pike-armed infantry designed to defeat cavalry; they were exceptionally well-trained in this instance, in that they were able to hold formation whi
            • All very good points.

              Why would Opus Dei or Gibson want to cut the Templars out of the movie?

              Opus Dei is still of the opinion that Templars worshiped Baphomet, participated in homosexual acts, basically did everything that Templars admitted under torture.

              It is my opinion that given the choice, Gibson made the decision not to include the Templars in a historic battle. The fact that Wallace was already dead and not present at the battle leads me to believe that the decision to omit the Templars from the
    • Gibson is a member of an ultraconservative Catholic movement which rejects the Vatican's authority over the Catholic church.
       (from this text [cbsnews.com])

      sanctioned by the Church no less (from post by DaytonCIM). [slashdot.org]

      So is Opus Dei sanctioned by the church or not? if they are, then I hardly believe that O.D. would reject the Vatican's authority.

      Judging by the web site for Opus Die [opusdei.org] they are on good terms with the Vatican. So I see the question as answered.

      Read up on their site if you are interested. Lots and lots o
      • dang loose a href tag . . . .

        This is same as above, but cleaned up:

        Gibson is a member of an ultraconservative Catholic movement which rejects the Vatican's authority over the Catholic church. (from this text [cbsnews.com])

        sanctioned by the Church no less
        from this post [slashdot.org] by DaytonCIM.

        So is Opus Dei sanctioned by the church or not? if they are, then I hardly believe that O.D. would reject the Vatican's authority.

        Judging by the web site for Opus Die [opusdei.org] they are on good terms with the Vatican. So I see the question as ans
  • Anyone else confused by this:

    American actor, producer, and director, Mel Gibson

    I'd swear Mel is an Aussie...?

    And I'd like to know why this movie being shown in every theatre is important. Of course, my personal opinion is if theatres have no problem showing crappy remakes of GREAT 70s TV series, like SWAT, or mindless teen drivel like Jeepers Creepers 2 (there was a 1?), then they shouldn't have a problem showing the equally artistic, Passion.

    On a purely monetary basis, I'm sure this film will do ver
    • What vilification of Jews in the script? What's the deal with Opus Dei that you have a problem with? A quick Google didn't help.
      • What vilification of Jews in the script?
        (I will post more on this later as I don't have access to my library at work). But for now,

        From CNN.com [cnn.com]

        Gibson, a devout follower of a Roman Catholic splinter group that believes in a Latin Mass and rejects changes made in the Church by Vatican II, has poured up to $30 million of his own money to produce the film, according to The Associated Press.

        The reaction has bothered him, said Lauer.

        "It's hurt him a great deal. He has many close Jewish friends. He's worked

        • First of all, if the movie is even reasonably historical, over 90% of the characters will be Jews. Certainly all of the "good guys" (headed, one presumes, by Jesus), and most of the villains (except for the Romans). I have not read the script or seen the movie, so I will not judge its contents. Actually, I'm not likely to see it anyway; I'm just not that interested. I have seen a "Passion Play", and I have to say that I got nothing out of it that suggested vilification of Jews.

          Second, the term "pers
    • nor will I support or condone the vilifying nature of his script toward Jews.

      Disclamer: I have not seen the movie, so over the top vilification could be in the movie and I would not know. Having said that...

      I'm trying to figure out what you mean by vilification. Some of the Jews (not the 99.9% that actually loved their God and obeyed Him; I'm talking about the sect that abused their power and influence) called the Pharisees spread rumors, and incited riots to get the Romans to crucify Jesus.

      If you b
    • Eh.. I'm torn, I like supporting art, but I dislike how a lot of religious people reacted to the "Last temptation of Christ."

      I see a similar reaction to this movie, it's just one of those areas that will always stir up controversy.

      Now, speaking in the foreign languages rather then in bad accents, that I fully support.
      • I unfortunately also expect to see many christian organizations (as well as general anti-religion) preach against this movie out of a mistaken beliefe that making noise about mainstream representations of Christianity are bad.

        Such is life in a confused and blind world.

        jason

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