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Comment: Re:Why the 99% confidence interval? (Score 1) 508

by Thatmushroom (#41472585) Attached to: California Legalizes Self Driving Cars

A 95% confidence interval is the usual convention, but there's nothing sacred about that number. In my view, it's usually more important to consider expected loss, where you multiply the probability of something going wrong by how much damage would occur for each possible outcome. Let's take a walk and see why you might want a much tighter CI for something like this:

At some point, an automated car will be involved in an accident that causes a fatality. It might be the other car's fault, it might be equipment failure, it might be the AI's fault, but it will happen. People are not very good at understanding risk or teasing out causality, so there will be an outcry calling for heads at Google to roll for this. People will see a new process that takes away control from them, freak out, think that they would do better with their own hands on the steering wheel, and there will be a major push to ban driverless cars. States like California might not give in, since their economy is closely tied into tech companies, but red states? Fuggedaboutit. Emotions trump statistics, and the longer we have to adjust to the idea of driverless cars, the less likely it is that there will be a strong resistance. At this point, we're considering a 5% chance that we were wrong and that driverless cars aren't demonstrably better than humans behind the wheel. A 5% probability of driverless cars being just as unsafe as manually driven cars, multiplied by the lives lost because of delays in implementation after the general public freaks out, is a pretty big expected loss. Truth be told, this probably understates the expected loss, because we're shooting to prove that driverless cars are safer, but it will take a lot of time before we know how much safer. We've been driving for a century, our country is permeated with the car culture, and we have a reasonable grasp of the risks involved (from a statistical, not emotional, level). It will take a while to accumulate the same kind of data on driverless cars.

This also considers a driverless car surrounded by cars with human drivers in the state of California. It's important to keep the scope of the testing in context. It's probably true that we can extend this to the roads in various conditions with varying compositions of driver+driverless cars, but it's easy to see how many people will have reservations about that. Heck, look at this thread.

I can't wait for driverless cars to roll out en masse, not least because of how many lives they will save, but it really is the cultural and legal side that will hold things up across the country. If we have to wait a little longer for the rollout to happen because we're looking for a higher standard of proof, that might be an optimal course of action once you consider that we're dealing with the general public.

Yes, IAAStatistician.

Comment: SAS is running scared (Score 4, Insightful) 215

by Thatmushroom (#39875661) Attached to: EU Court Rules APIs, Programming Languages Not Copyrightable

WPS (the SAS-compatible software produced by WPL) is a pretty darned good SAS clone for a fraction of the cost. I'm positive that they thought suing was a good business decision, even if they knew they didn't have a leg to stand on. The impact of WPL's existence is going to hurt their bottom line much more than what they had to pay their legal team. I don't have anything in the fight (other than being a user of both), I'm just happy to see something that'll either make SAS drop the price, or that we've found a good replacement.

Comment: Serious question (Score 4, Interesting) 168

by Thatmushroom (#29163785) Attached to: Google Chrome For Linux Goes 64-bit

Can someone explain the particular benefits of having a 64-bit browser? I particularly appreciate the fact that Firefox currently can't hog all of my RAM when something (oftentimes Flash) spirals out of control. Do web developers use memory beyond the 4 gig limit, and is this a godsend for them?

Comment: John Allen Paulos books (Score 2, Interesting) 630

by Thatmushroom (#26777083) Attached to: Mathematics Reading List For High School Students?

"Innumeracy" and others are very good general introductions to how math is used in the real world. The kids who are going to do an extra-credit reading list will likely be right at the target level you're going for. A lot of them are also structured so you can take in a couple small chapters at a time and move on.

Comment: Missing the forest for the trees (Score 5, Interesting) 675

by Thatmushroom (#26322075) Attached to: Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested By Amtrak Police

Nowhere in his original account (http://www.duanek.name/Amtrak/index.htm) does he state that he was taking the pictures for the contest. It seems to be that the journalist chose to heavily emphasize the contest angle, perhaps to go for a more compelling story. Unfortunately, the journalist's choice to spin it as a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing, he missed the bigger picture. Photographers are increasingly faced with arbitrary restrictions and demands that are not based upon the law, but based on fear. Forums at places like dpreview.com and flickr are often abuzz with stories of cops making unreasonable demands.

The only way to counteract this is with knowledge. If you happen to like taking pictures of subjects in public spaces, http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm is an enlightening read. This link (http://www.kantor.com/blog/Legal-Rights-of-Photographers.pdf) says essentially the same thing, but lays it out with a real-world example.

Also, to the editors, perhaps having a link to the current version of the contest (http://www.amtrak.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Amtrak/am2Copy/Hot_Deals_Page&c=am2Copy&cid=1093554057903&ssid=224) would be good. I was skeptical that they actually had continued running the contest until I found that.

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