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Comment Re:FUCK OFF DICE (Score 1) 679

So yeah, segregated bathrooms, changing rooms, introductory CS classes, fine, there are clear reasons

Wait WHAT ?!?

I mean, Bathrooms and Changing rooms have to do with Lady parts vs Man parts, but I'm not clear on what CLEAR reason you see for Introductory CS classes... Last I checked (and I admit my introductory CS classes were about 20 years ago), there was no genital involvement.

Comment Re:Maybe it's just who we are... (Score 1) 679

That's basically what it is. Computers didn't come into their own as a "Thinkerer" field until the early 80s. By that time, most degrees had gone to women, and you were still seeing that population into the early 90s.

The shift in degrees occurred early/mid-80s with the release of the PC platform and Home computers, these things don't happen in the span of a few days. It takes years to change a trend like that in emerging fields. In the 90s, when I did my Comp Sci classes, we had like 80% of our teachers being women, while 90% of the class were guys.

Why is it so hard to accept that maybe women in general don't prefer the field, just like men in general don't prefer nursing ?

Comment Re:FUCK OFF DICE (Score 1) 679

Guys don't want women coming in to their existing communities

Your are intentionally obtuse and it's not doing you any favors. Guys want women coming in to their existing communities. What guys don't want is women changing their communities.

You don't go into a community and change it to suit you. You go into a community and you adapt to its culture or you start your own Casino... well you know how that quote goes.

Comment Re:Maybe it's just who we are... (Score 2) 679

Something has changed.

Back in the '70s and '80s, computers and programming were seen more as secretarial work than actual technical work. The field had more women participation because of stereotypes of the time being that "Secretarial" work meant work for women. As the industry progressed and created and identity for itself as a tinkerer field, guys managed to overcome the sexist stereotype that "Computers are for secretaries and secretaries are women".

That's what changed.

Comment Re:No, just no. (Score 1) 679

Being told that girls are not interested in CS by teachers and parents. The "resume test" (identical applicants, one with female name and one with male name). Unwanted attention and comments in the workplace. The kind of bullshit we see on the LKML, that even some men won't put up with. The wage gap (yes, it's real, even after you account for absolutely everything). Brogrammers. I could go on.

I wish you would, because you have yet to name a BARRIER to entry. The resume test is BS, being told anything by your parents is bull (my parents told me all the time that computers were a waste of time and I'm a guy). The kind of thing we see on LKML is gender agnostic. The wage gap myth is based off a maid's salary compared to a CEO's salary, not 2 individuals in IT, Brogrammers were an April's fool joke (and frankly, girls can be as big of Bros as guys are, that's sexist of you to say otherwise).

So what BARRIER is there ? What is PREVENTING women in Tech ? Because as far as I can see and as far as you can explain, if a girl wants to go in Tech, she'll go in tech, get a job and have a good career.

Comment Re:Issue is more complicated (Score 1) 918

"This is not good work."

"This shit sucks."

Same content. Same feedback.

Err... not really. "Not good work" is not the same as "this shit sucks". "This shit sucks" means it's downright bottom of the barrel bad and is never going to be even be considered for usage, not if anyone's life depended on it. We'd let entire star systems we reduced to a single ash before even thinking of looking at using it.

"This is not good work" just means it's not good. It can be passable, it can be bad, but usable, it can be used in the case of an emergency if we have nothing else to work it while you work on something better.

Garbage is garbage. It goes in the garbage. "Not good" is still a pretty large scale. Is it passable ? Just barely usable ? Usable if we have nothing else ? Downright unusable ? Which is it ? Too vague.

"This is garbage" is 100% clear. Clarity > Politeness. If you can't preserve clarity and remain polite, then screw politeness. The receiving person will be mad for a time, but at least he'll know where you stand.

Comment Re:Issue is more complicated (Score 1) 918

You insulted him many times in that discussion, but refusing to answer his very simple question. He asked you to explain the bug. You have failed to even provide that basic response to him, basically completely disrespecting him the whole way and insulting our collective intelligence.

And we should not insult you back ? Double standards much ?

Comment Re:Issue is more complicated (Score 1) 918

I suggest you go to her blog again, and CTRL-F for "Fart". Then read the sentence that comes up. Then come back here, take out the foot that's firmly implemented in your mouth, and proceed to apologize to the class.

Sarah Sharp is a person of no consequence who tried to Tone police a whole community and is now throwing a kindergarten level tanthrum because people just told her to shove it.

You don't insert yourself into a community and expect the entire culture to change to suit you. You adapt to the new community.

Comment Re:Not acting like Linus? (Score 2) 679

She left not because she has a vagina, but because she attempts to Tone police people and people didn't want none of it and told her in no uncertain terms.

She's not mature emotionally, and doesn't tolerate difference of opinion.

Any guy would've suffered the same fate she did. In fact, her buddy Matthew Garrett also exited with her. This was not a gender issue. This was a Sarah and Matthew issue.

Comment Re:No, just no. (Score 3, Insightful) 679

In both cases it's because people tell us they want to do those things but face gender based barriers

A lot of folks tell us they face barriers. Not a whole lot of people can actually tell us what those barriers even are.

Can you even name 1 single barrier faced by women trying to get in tech ? Outside of "My gender studies degree is not landing me a job at Google doing C++" ?

You seem to like hanging out in these diversity posts on Slashdot, and you keep bringing up the issue at high level, but you always fail to go down to the detail level. I've yet to see a convincing argument for those "barriers" outside a perceived "Brogrammer culture" (which we don't even know what people mean by).

and because we need more women/men in those professions for various reasons.

We need more people. Their genitals don't matter. Their talent and passion does.

Comment Re:Maybe you should focus... (Score 1) 145

Basically, a developer for Opal made an off-color comment on Twitter, in his spare time. Because he had "Developer for Opal" on his Twitter profile, users that were offended made a bug report about it :

From there after a long string of drama, Github introduced a Code of Conduct, but it contained language such as "We will not act on Reverse Racism" (aka, non-priviledge races making harassing/defaming comments about whites) and other bigoted "progressive" ideals.

They were massively called out on it, and it created a schism in the community between people who believe things like "Can't be sexist towards males/can't be racist towards whites" and people who call out such idealogies as Bigoted.

It ended with the CoC going into limbo :

All relevant issues opened about Bigoted language in the CoC are linked in that issue. You can basically thank the people behind Contributor_Convenant that are trying to poison the Open Source community at large with the same trite that happened to the Atheism scene in 2010-2011 and to Occupy Wallstreet.

Apparently, the words of Bill and Ted aren't enough anymore : Be excellent to each other.

Comment Re:Who? (Score 1) 79

now you get to find out how much they REALLY make in a month.

Now ? This information was always public on Patreon :

You can publicly see the number of patrons and the monthly revenue they generate. If they have their patreon set to per-creation instead of per-month, you still get the stats per-creation, as in, per-video for instance:

So this hack doesn't even reveal that. At best, it can reveal who is a patron of who, which is not dessimated to the public.

Comment Re:Conclusion not supported by given evidence (Score 1) 280

None of your data support your argument that this is a problem though. What if women just aren't majorly interested in programming in IT, just like it seems men are less interested in daycare work ?

What barriers do you perceive for women in IT/Programming ? Because I see none. I see a bunch of folks dumping a lot of good money into "fixing" it though, so I guess there's good money to be made in pretending there is a problem.

To downgrade the human mind is bad theology. - C. K. Chesterton