Remember when we called Obama the Deporter In Chief? How many people did Obama deport, do you remember?
A perfect example of handling a perceived problem humanely.
You support deportations, so why are you trying to use that as an attack? lol
As a reminder, the Biden administration actually flew planes to foreign countries, picked up asylum seekers, and flew them directly into America, because they insisted we needed ever more asylum seekers, and they needed to reduce the numbers crossing the biorder on foot.
Erm, so? Are you trying to equate asylum parolees with illegal immigrants? Fascinating. Isn't that like, you motherfuckers whole schtick? You're just against the illegal kind?
Your colors are showing, amigo.
You said that twice. It would help us if you could explain what you think it means, and how it differs from what you perceive as MachineShedFred's understanding.
I said it twice, because they invoked it as if it were a magic spell twice.
In order to say how it differs from MachineShedFred's understanding, he'd have to have explained what that was.
All I can say is that what he thinks certainly doesn't match reality if he thinks that due process is violated by the arrest.
First problem, is that he's mixing up procedural due process, and substantive due process.
Second problem, is that Congress has explicitly limited the due process of people who are here illegally (Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA)) under certain circumstances.
An example of a due process violation that would be unquestionable, would be if they were engaging in indefinite detention (effectively suspending habeas corpus), unless the court found he could legally suspend habeas corpus in this instance (which it almost certainly wouldn't- not even this Supreme Court, I don't think)
i.e., due process claims are largely overblown, and greatly misunderstood.
To be crass, black-bagging an immigrant off the street if you have reason to believe they are eligible for expedited removal is not a violation of their due process rights.
Putting them in prison indefinitely is.
Are you saying the Feds can break the law, and get away with it because of supremacy and qualified immunity?
That's a loaded statement.
I'm saying it's not illegal for those reasons, not that they can break the law for those reasons.
Transferring an arrested person from the point of arrest to a detention center with good faith belief that they have been involved in a crime is not unlawful, as long as the finding of good faith is held by the court.
Supremacy clause says that the Constitution and its laws are the supreme law of the land, which means that no law that doesn't explicitly remove qualified immunity (and is found to be constitutionally doing so) can make what they did illegal.
This might sound weird to you- but it makes perfect sense.
It is not reasonable to say that officers, doing their job, under orders assumed to be lawful, are criminals.
Sorry, arresting under color of law without the due process of law is indeed unlawful detainment as spelled out by about 200 years of jurisprudence and the literal interpretation of the 5th Amendment to the Constitution. And if you go over state lines with your unlawful detainment, it's technically human trafficking.
#1 is correct, but doesn't apply, making it a pointless claim.
Due process does not mean what you think it means.
#2 is also correct, but does not apply, because of Supremacy, and Qualified Immunity.
You're why we struggle.
EVERYONE gets due process, whether an "undocumented" or not. If you are geographically within the boundaries of the United States or its protectorates, you are guaranteed due process. Unless, of course, you happen to have brown skin apparently.
Due process does not mean what you think it means.
Open your damn eyes.
My eyes are open, and I see the desperation in yours. I wish I could soothe it, but I fear you too stupid to be reasoned with.
Calibri is the default font for Windows 10.
No, it most certainly is not.
Rather than moving forward and selecting Aptos, the default typeface for Windows 11,
Uh, also very wrong.
Are you talking about their Office suite, perhaps?
Rubio insists on using Times New Roman, a font based on the original Mac's New York font from 1984.
Fail to see how the fuck that's relevant.
In any case, this is a stupid, worthless move used to distract people from the real problems which lay before us -- the most corrupt regime in American history, led by a serial child rapist with onset dementia.
Pretty spot on.
8 years ago, I may have agreed with you. Now you literally have a secret police force nabbing US citizens or whoever they don't like off the street and deporting them to a foreign prison without trial.
Misleading.
Deportation of someone who does not have a right to be here does not require a trial.
ICE is not secret police. Douche bag police? I'll grant you that.
Your highest offices are openly ignoring the law...
Which law is this, now?
what makes you think they'll stop at shooting just one US citizen (and posthumously declaring them a traitor with no evidence after the fact).
Because the rational parts of my brain still work, unlike yours.
They're already sticking guns into the faces of preachers.
This might come as news to you, but police in the US have been sticking guns in the faces of lots of people for a very long time.
Do preachers get a pass or some shit?
Ironic as a German Preacher named Martin Niemoeller warned us of just this kind of thing 90 odd years ago.
We're quite a ways away from having an SA or Gestapo, comrade.
You at least noticed some random Houthis forced a carrier group to retreat and resupply
And no, that is not the definition of retreat.
Withdrawing to resupply does not indicate defeat. Especially if you come back and continue to dish out the nonconsensual missile-up-your-ass sex.
What do you think happens when someone keeps sending drones when you have no drone defense left...
That would be bad. Commanders would lose their commands, that's for sure.
That also didn't happen.
Ships left to resupply well before they ran out of ammunition.
You forgot the 2 f18s. One was shot down thinking it was a drone. The other fell into the sea as the carrier maneuvered away from a drone.
Those are not Houthi-caused casualties, so no, I did not forget them.
Mistakes happen, and planes are lost. This is a normal part of operations.
The one shot down was by a cruiser not attached to that CSG. The navy obviously needs to improve its inter-unit communications here, and I'm sure they'll do so.
The one that careened off of the carrier simply was not strapped down. Expensive mistake, but they happen.
So 2 aircraft vs some easily replaceable huts
Who gives a shit about huts and aircrafts? The US can build more F/A-18s than the Houthis can build huts.
Those strikes aren't aimed at huts. They're aimed at people. And they hit people. And those people are now fucking dead.
Humans, as it turns out, can't be built in a factory no matter how much money you have.
There are worse things in life than death. Have you ever spent an evening with an insurance salesman? -- Woody Allen