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The journal entry that prompted this.

Certainly our journals are our own and nobody is required to read them. If they don't like what they read they can go elsewhere. That doesn't mean we need to support rude behavior. cyranoVR wrote three JE's of "Rulings" then explained he couldn't be bother to reply to most of the questions and criticisms because "Arguing about politics or "philosophy" (more accurately described as "ethics") is a waste of time, in my opinion, online."

Now he has used his forum to spread his wife's mistaken thoughts about Technolust's life and situation. Again CVR (and his wife) have provoked the journal group and those who have friended him, but without the civility to explain their positions to those who reply.

Well if I wanted to hear someone who isn't interested in actually discussing the issues he raises, I'd listen to Michael Savage, but I'm not and I don't. So I've defriended cyranoVR and I encourage you to do the same.

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  • yeah (Score:2)

    by btlzu2 ( 99039 ) *
    pretty much what i'm thinking. before i read this, i had been reading that je and came to the same conclusion. i get the feeling that cvr and his wife think we're a bunch of idiots for valuing this community. i've pretty much always liked interacting with him, but, i don't know, i think they're a bit too full of themselves. wish them well, but i don't want to follow them bashing my friends.
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      • i like cvr for those things too. i've just gotten sick of what i'd consider his "i'm-better-than-everyone" attitude and his consistent slagging off of people who actually enjoy it around here. i don't exactly know why he sees fit to posting here when it comes down to it--he obviously holds little to no respect for most everyone i'd think. it's not just about tl, although, i don't know why someone would find it in their hearts to campaign against someone instead of staying out of it and leaving people to
      • And he also sends IMs out of the blue to people who have been members of this community for 3 years accusing them of being "just like LadyGuardian" and interrogating them about their motivation for being on slashdot.
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          • So the first time that I am on AIM after this JE was posted, I get the following IM:
            LADYGUARDIANLADYGUARDIANLADYGUARDIANLADYGUARD IANLADYGUARDIANLADYGUARDIANLADYGUARDIANLADYGUARDIA NLADYGUARDIAN
            So, yeah. He pretty much dislikes me for no discernable reason.
        • Wait...

          You mean you're NOT LadyGuardian?

          Dude. I *totally* thought that she was just one of your aliases...

          Now I'm flat-out confused.

          ....Bethanie....
      • Ah, so why does everyone feel the need to defend their "friendship" with CVR or Ne'moness or whomever?

        I've really gotten to hate the labels "friend" and "foe" in zoo.pl. It leads to all manner of misunderstandings such as this one. For my part I care little about what CVR has to say about Ne'moness or TL and vice versa, and really rather wish both would go back to posting their usual stuff, which is why I "friended" each of them in the first place. Where "friended" means "I like to read what they have to

        • those are some good points imo and i'm actually wondering if i got sucked in too much into the whole friend thing because i'm interested in cvr's writing a lot too. i've always had problems, though, with people who think they're superior to others.

          however, i do consider a lot of you my friends and i think i feel a bit upset or hurt when someone is disrespectful to a friend. is that something fairly exclusive to my experience here then? maybe i'm too sentimental about you bastards. i should start hating
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        • Oh I agree CVR is often interesting to read, but how much fun is it to talk to him when he doesn't talk back? He posts in part because he likes the comments, although I don't see how he's changing our opinions by pretending statements are facts when he won't back them up. So read his stuff, but you needen't comment if you want a reply, because you probably won't be getting one back from him. I wonder if he'd post as often if he didn't get feedback?
          • If you mean CVR is trolling, maybe he is. I really don't mind it if he is, though. Trolls can actually serve a purpose -- getting you to think about your own position, even if you disagree with what the troll is saying.

            Uh, goatse.cx trolls excluded, of course.

            From what little I know of CVR on Slashdot, I can't say if he's the kind of guy I'd want to get to know in person or not. Actually, very few people on Slashdot reveal enough about themselves to let me make that kind of judgement. Most have more of

      • But he's funny, and writes well

        MOM?!?!? Is that you?!?!

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    • I'm pretty much in agreement here (wtf, I'm agreeing with HBI again?).

      Basically, I view you and CyranoVR in about the same category much of the time: you both have strong opinions that occasionally match and occasionally differ from my own, and you both tend to think them out in ways I can understand for the most part.

      On the other hand, you're both also assholes in your own way. Cyrano's worse by far, though, because he won't even make the effort to answer opposing points most of the time, he just handwav
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        • TMP? Man, the guy is (was) a RIOT! He liked to rant, and that was upfront. You hav eto de-f someone, TMP, T4$, Profane MuthaFukca', etc., when part of the ride is an entertaining persona... It's like de-friending George Carlin - admittedly a sometimes "amateur night" version thereof.

          The lines I have, are intentional unkindness directed at other persons posting. People can insult opinions and conclusions, sometimes I am carried awayt here, myself. Ill will towards individuals - demonstrated without ack
          • TMP? Man, the guy is (was) a RIOT! He liked to rant, and that was upfront. You hav eto de-f someone, TMP, T4$, Profane MuthaFukca', etc., when part of the ride is an entertaining persona...

            For non-standard values of "entertaining," perhaps. The rest of us saw nothing more in the_insane_poster (or CyranoVR, for that matter) than a wanker who was better off ignored, or (better yet) shunned.

        • My policy is to respond to people with the respect that they have earned. If Silly or RW or Bethanie says something, they get kindness even if I despise their POV. If it's TMP or cvr or some other troll bastard, they get all the abuse I can muster the will to throw their way.

          Amen. Despite what TMP and CVR and other trolls whom I've foe'd claim, I do not foe or flame anyone because of their views, as the many liberal people who post to my journal can attest.
          • Yeah, we all know what a "fair and balanced" guy you are pudge.
            • Yes. I am extremely fair; of this, there can be no rational doubt.
              • Mighty circular of you there.

                Cheers,

                Ethelred

                • It's only circular if I was relying on something other than the corpus of evidence provided over the years in my journal. I've never foe'd anyone who wasn't being a total ass. I've never come close to foe'ing anyone for their viewpoint, and no one can find any evidence to the contrary.
                  • It's circular because what for you is "fair" in judging others to be an "ass", as you say (nice implied bit of name-calling there), is entirely subjective and your own point of view based on your own standards of behavior. You cannot speak of "proof" when something is of a subjective nature.

                    Cheers,

                    Ethelred

                    • It's circular because what for you is "fair" in judging others to be an "ass", as you say (nice implied bit of name-calling there)

                      I did not imply. It was explicit.

                      is entirely subjective and your own point of view based on your own standards of behavior

                      Of course. That's a given.

                      You cannot speak of "proof" when something is of a subjective nature.

                      That's false. As long as I clearly state my standards (which I did) and consistently abide by them (which I have), then it is objectively provable, and objectivel
                    • I did not imply. It was explicit.

                      Simple name-calling would appear to be against your standards of good behavior, yet you engage in it, in spite of my remaining quite polite in pointing out a possible flaw in your statement.

                      Cheers,

                      Ethelred

                    • Simple name-calling would appear to be against your standards of good behavior, yet you engage in it

                      See my reply to HBI. I do engage in it occasionally, when it is warranted by the poor behavior of someone else.

                      in spite of my remaining quite polite in pointing out a possible flaw in your statement.

                      I said you, and everyone I've foe'd, at the time "[was] being a total ass." I was in no way commenting on our current discussion, so this clause prepended with "in spite of" is entirely out of place. I was not
                    • See my reply to HBI. I do engage in it occasionally, when it is warranted by the poor behavior of someone else.

                      Two wrongs don't make a right.

                      Which is not to say I don't do things that are wrong. But descending into name-calling doesn't do your cause any good. It just makes you no better than the person you're calling names. Maybe even worse.

                      Cheers,

                      Ethelred

                    • Two wrongs don't make a right.

                      It's not about being right. It's about lacking a need for politeness. If someone's a total ass, I cease having a reason to be nice. Whether it's right or wrong is beside the point.

                      But descending into name-calling doesn't do your cause any good.

                      At that point, any "cause" is also beside the point. The other person's already lost by being an ass. Now I'm just having fun, or engaging in catharsis.
                  • Certainly there is no greater assedness than claiming correlation between political events and stock market behavior.

                    • Re:Rounding it out (Score:1, Troll)

                      by pudge ( 3605 ) *
                      Why are you calling yourself an ass?

                      Not that you're not.
                    • Associating poltical events with market movement is bad behavior and not opinion exactly how?
                    • Associating poltical events with market movement is bad behavior and not opinion exactly how?

                      Oh, I see. You're still persisting with the lie that you were foe'd because of what you said, instead of telling the obvious and plain truth: you were foe'd for two reasons, neither directly having to do with your opinion.

                      First, clearly, you were abusive. That alone was sufficient, but I wanted to give you the chance to make your point.

                      Second, worse, you were asserting over and over that your opinion was *fact*.
          • Yeah, as a resident trol^Wliberal who's had discussions with you, you're pretty good about that. I think some people around here honestly mistake "sticking to my basic axioms" or "insisting on 100% clear definitions" for poor debate sometimes, since 99% of the time I see someone getting frustrated or pissy with you you're doing one of those two things.
        • Coulda predicted the Machiavelli quote.

          I have a similar one to the Seneca one, except it's Bruce Lee quoting a martial arts/Zen master of his acquaintance. "If you are spending your time on a person at their request, and you don't care to do so or you are feeling put upon by them, they are literally stealing the one thing you can't ever recover."

          And honestly, I've never seen you drop an arguement where there were points to be made--that's a fundamental difference between you and a troll. You tend, in my s
    • "And I can meet all of that type I would ever want in my day to day life, thank you."

      Cool, Ill introduce you to my inlaws. :)
    • I concur wholeheartedly with this. He's even had the cowardice to attack me and others by trying to drag our family members into his trolls. He's scum, regardless of his views.
    • Oh I don't know... I don't give a rat's ass about anyone because I think 95% of the human population are mouth breathing morons. And that goes double for online stuff (Yeah. 190%) ;P

      But in all seriousness, I don't really care about what people say online unless I think they actually have some good points. Saying that, I have to say that I am very biased towards a fascist left world view. I believe that most people need protection from themselves and that a very small part of the population are qualified
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