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Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 1) 736

by JMJimmy (#47972761) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

Poor grammar on my part, my apologies. "It" in the previous comment was not meant to refer to statistics itself but rather anything that uses statistics to prove something. At some point, whatever that subject is, must be proven scientifically but until we're able to do so statistics acts as a 'best guess' but is not actual proof. Example: a psychological study of a group cannot prove anything about any given individual.

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 1) 736

by JMJimmy (#47969397) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

Absolutely true. And even though science can disprove the 6k Earth it doesn't mean everything else in religious texts is false. While I don't proscribe to a religion I also don't proscribe to invalidating religion - even if certain elements are suspect that doesn't degrade some lessons to be learned from the texts - faith or not.

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 1) 736

by JMJimmy (#47965959) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

Because people don't understand that science is built on experimentation, they don't understand that studies in fields like psychology almost never prove anything, since only replicated experiment proves something and, humans being a very diverse lot, it is very hard to replicate any psychological experiment.

This was my point in the other discussion. If you can take a test and replicate it to get a consistent result that is scientific. Psychological studies can never truly be reproducible because of the diversity of humanity.

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 5, Insightful) 736

by JMJimmy (#47965877) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

Religion and science can co-exist if people stopped attributing religious or anti-religious views to science. Science makes no claims about religion and they are not mutually exclusive. When atheists are asked "well, if you don't believe in religion what do you believe in" - they'll often erroneously say "science". Science is not a belief system though it may cause claims of religion to be called into question example: Jesus walking on water. To our current understanding of science this is not possible unaided. Maybe it was a hoax, maybe it was a divine being, maybe it wasn't a literal claim - science doesn't know, that's for people to examine or accept on faith (as part of a religion or otherwise).

Science needs to be separated from anti-religious ideology.

Comment: Re:In lost the will to live ... (Score 1) 736

by JMJimmy (#47965655) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

[facepalm] - The article made no such claim. The claim was that they shared a view that "science was like magic" - which both of them have been quoted as saying. That's the only comparison that was being made between the two - you're reading way more into it than it actually says.

Comment: Re:So educational! (Score 2) 736

by JMJimmy (#47964471) Attached to: How Our Botched Understanding of "Science" Ruins Everything

Doing experiments on something does not require physical presence. And most of what we think we "know" has not been proven yet in a scientific manner. It's likely provable, but could be completely misunderstood and only the observable effects are common between what we think we know and what is provable.

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