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Comment: Re:Commercial attack. (Score 1) 82

Your analogy is wrong. Anything Google recorded was broadcast to them. They didn't use magical telescopic receivers to record things from a longer distance than they were being sent by the people sending those things. The people whose data was recorded literally sent it to Google either willingly and intentionally or because they were too stupid to realize they were sending that information to Google.

I said lying was wrong. I also said Google's lies were stupid because they were. Recording openly broadcast information and doing nothing with it isn't something they needed to lie about. What they should have done was announce something along the lines of "Yes, we recorded packets from non-encrypted connections. Anyone stupid enough to send sensitive information over a non-encrypted connection should be really grateful that we have no intention of doing anything with that information."

Lying isn't inherently evil. Everyone does it all the time. Whether it's saying "Fine" when someone says "How are you" or telling a child Santa Clause is coming or that nothing is going on when you're actually planning a surprise birthday party or one of the uncountable other "little white lies", we all do it and it isn't evil.

Wrong is also not inherently evil. I'm dieting. If I eat a cookie, it's wrong, but it's not evil. If you don't brush your teeth every day, it's wrong but not evil. Trying to equate wrong with evil is dumb.

Google lied to cover their ass when they didn't really need to. It was stupid and wrong, but it wasn't evil by any realistic definition of the term.

Comment: Re:Commercial attack. (Score 1) 82

by GrumpySteen (#40123955) Attached to: Call For DOJ To Reopen Google Wi-Fi Spying Investigation

You're focusing on the wrong thing.

Google didn't steal credentials. They recorded information that was being openly broadcast. If you DVR a TV show and someone on it holds up his credit card and reads out the numbers, you haven't stolen that person's credentials even though you have recorded them. Unless you take that information and do something, you've done nothing wrong.

The only thing Google did wrong was lying about it and trying to cover their asses. I'm not arguing that lying and covering your ass isn't wrong, but it doesn't cause harm to anyone in any way and it's not remotely evil.

If you hand your credit card to someone and they look at it and happen to remember the information printed on it a month later, they did not steal your credentials.

I'm not saying what Google did was right, but it doesn't qualify as evil. Stupid, sure, but not evil.

Comment: Re:Commercial attack. (Score 1) 82

I have no problem with the first three lines of your post, but the fourth is idiotic.

There are lots of things in this world that are evil. Torture, rape, murder, genocide, biological warfare, terrorism, racism, letting people die of starvation when food is available, letting them die from diseases when treatments and vaccines are available, stripping people of their basic rights... recording unencrypted data that's being broadcast to you as you drive by and doing nothing with it isn't even close to evil.

Comment: Re:He was too ambitious (Score 1) 534

by GrumpySteen (#40087961) Attached to: SAP VP Arrested In False Barcode Scheme

The irony I find is that someone has the audacity to sell the word of god

I'm sure the publishers would be happy to hand out bibles for free if God would just send a check to cover the production costs.

to prey on someones vanity to profit, that has always bothered me.

Designer clothes, shoes, purses, suits, ties, jewelry, make-up, fancy bibles and tens of thousands of other products are marketed specifically to serve people who want to display their vanity. Quite frequently the cost of the item is an important part of that since it allows them to show off their affluence. The people who buy those things obviously aren't being preyed upon because they seek them out and pay for them of their own free will.

Why does it bother you that other people make those goods available to the people who want them and are willing to pay for them?

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