e benchmarks I saw had it about the same. The 2020 M1 Air slightly faster in single threaded, slightly slower in multithreaded, or do I have those two swapped. Either way, it's abouth the same overall.

Geekbench puts them at Neo 3535/8920 (s/m) & MBA 2347/8342 (s/m). So the Neo is significantly ahead on single core performance, and ahead (but just barely) in muti threaded even with the reduced core count! Which is decent for half the price! (well if you get the EDU discount on the Neo, the M1 MBA doesn’t have a EDU discount that I know of).

To be clear at the price point not too much slower would be Ok, but the benchmarks have it at way faster for single thread, and faster but basely a tie for MT.

To be honest a used M1 Air or M3 Air would seem a better deal

A used M1 Air at under the Neo's price would be a good deal. The M3 at the Neo’s price would be a great deal. I mean the Neo is pretty damn good at its price point. It is fast, it works surprisingly well for its RAM configuration. The +$100 model has touchID and slightly less pathetic local storage. The Neo’s display is physically smaller, but the whole device is quite small, some people prefer smaller devices for carrying about and use in cramped areas. I mean from my view point (16” MBP with large external displays) both the Neo and MBA have tiny cramped displays! However both are shockingly fast for their price.

The MacBook Neo gets a fairly high repairability score. Most people who have disassembled it seem to be of the opinion that since it isn’t going for absolute minimal size and weight they used very few adhesives and lots of screws. So it is pretty simple to take apart and put back together. Apple does also make “self repair” kits for many products amiable to rent with an unreasonable deposit (purchase also available, but not useful to most people), but has apparently decent instructions and such to get things done.

As for upgradability, nope, they are headed away from that as fast as they can. No RAM upgrades on any modern Apple device, the RAM chips are wire bonded to the CPU, which at least means they use lower voltage swings and get somewhat better latency out of the same parts. Not in general a tradeoff I would make (I would rather have DIMMs and be able to do a late-life RAM upgrade to get more useful years out of a device rather then be stuck at my purchase RAM allotment forever -- and/or buy a low RAN model from Apple and do a day 1 3rd party RAM upgrade). To be fair to Apple customer installed RAM, and factory installed RAM that managed to work loose were the number one and number two repair issues for their upgradable devices (or maybe just laptops?) prior to starting to solder down RAM. Which statically means a shit ton of people thought Apple just made crap computers that flaked out at random and never brought them in for someone to tap on each DIMM and “fix it”. So soldering the RAM down decreased warranty repair costs, decreased out of warranty “customer comp” repair costs, and increased perceived reliability amongst people that don’t take flaky laptops into an Apple Store and try to get someone to look at it.

The obvious downside is I pay more when I buy a Mac either because I don’t buy enough RAM for the full useful lifecycle of the CPU, or because I do and Apple charges a lot of money for it (well until recently, due to long term supply contracts Apple’s RAM cost is very low, so the normal 50+% profit margin they take on RAM now seems highly competitatave with spot RAM prices)

The Neo is nerfed in way to reduce cannibalizing the Air. It 2020 M1 CPU performance with a smaller screen and slower I/O.

Or alternately it is intended to be a replacement for keeping the 2020 era M1 MacBook Air around for “special retail partners” (i.e. Walmart and Costco) to sell at $799. The MacBook Neo other then the I/O much faster then the M1 MacBook Air, and in various “whole system” benchmarks apparently the slower SSD doesn’t really impact it too much. Which blows my theory that the M1 at 8G could get so much done without feeling slow because the SSD was fast enough that it blunted the effects of doing VM page-outs/page-ins.

The Neo will make money, but that will be largely due to growth in the educational ecosystem. Maybe some other Chromebook niches.

It seems very popular for people who “always wanted a MacBook” and never could convince themselves they could afford one. I don’t know how many will be repeat buyers (let alone climb up the product chain to the Air). If they are satisfied with the Neo they don’t need the next Mac to be faster. If they are not satisfied with it, will they blamee that on “Macs suck!”, or on “The Neo is just entry level, I need to spend 2x to 3x to get a faster one!”.

I do see a ton of people talking about getting one as a first Mac, or having bought one and asking all the “how do I make it do (some random thing they miss from Windows)” questions.

Enjoy your retirement TIm Apple, you nauseating man

Except he isn’t retiring, he is stepping down as CEO and assuming the Chairman of the Board position where he will be specifically responsible for interfacing with world leaders (i.e. more sucking up to the orange man). Which is nice for John Ternus I guess because he can run Apple without dealing with(directly) with Trump, and let Tim deal with tossing golden trinkets at him and assuring him Apple is bringing manufacturing to the USA while talking to every other world leader and assuring them he is bringing manufacturing to them, and to China and tell them manufacturing is going no where and all the other things are just tiny slivers of inconsequential volume to appease random world leaders.

So no, his replacement isn’t kissing any rings, Tim gets to keep kissing the same rings. I don’t know if he enjoys it (I suspect not), or just thinks it is his responsibility, or can’t liquidate his stock fast enough to deal with the fallout if Apple stops being favored by Trump (Tariff bypass) and starts being targeted (special Tariffs, and more levers that a President could pull...like having someone hand inspect each iPhone before it comes through customs which would move a scheduled launch day back by weeks, months or years depending on how slowly the inspections are carried out).

Well also Ford and everyone else that spent a decade or more saying “nobody wants EVs”, saw Teslas’ success, and various government invcentaves and says “we are all in on EVs!”, and then when the incentives went away said “nobody wants EVs!”, is after the last week or so seeing record EV sales about to swing back to: “Yes EVs!”

So I won’t really take their opinions on the future with a lot of faith.

”only” about 20% of the world oil passes through it, so if we cut oil needs by 20% that’ll take a significant amount of the problem away. Which I know takes more then say filling half a desert with solar panels, we also have to buffer that energy for non-productive times, and convert things like oil burning heating systems into heat pumps and/or resistive heat systems, or regular cars into EVs (which mostly come with their own solution to the buffering issues). Very little of that is an engineering issue, it is mostly a “pay money and it can be done” problem. Which is the boring kind to fix because it is so “easy", but also frequently doesn’t get fixed (want to end homelessness? Buy everyone a home! End world hunger? Move the food from where it is currently rotting to where the hungry people are! We know how to move food (and people!), we just don’t do it!).

You may be right, but there are definitely PC vender executives who claim to be very worried about the Neo. Maybe foolishly, or maybe for once they are seeing a bigger picture, Apple is hitting one narrow slice here but in ways they can’t counter. They may be legit worried about other configurations taking other slices with no real counter.

I think Windows will provide an extremely large area for that market to “retreat” into though where Apple won’t really follow. I mean with some serious compatibility systems maybe, but this isn’t an x86 Mac, I don’t think BootCamp or any sort of windows emulation systems are going to take large chunks of the market...and then I remember SteamOS. So yes, Apple could embrace something like that, and that would take a big chunk out of the traditional laptop market...

You might have intended it as a joke, but semiconductor supplies go through the SoH, and while I don’t believe production has been interrupted due to a lack yet the supplies are being drawn down and will eventually run out resulting in increased cost for RAM, CPUs and GPUs and possibly even shortages. About a third of the helium supply goes via SoH and without it you ain’t getting more RAM, nor am I. Or MRI scans. Fortunately there are a few months of supply, more or less. Maybe less.

Definitely not “nobody”, but for sure “not enough to build a business on it”, the more surprising conclusion is “not really enough people to make expensive configurations of something that is basically an existing system”, at least not if you are Apple blunts the surprise a bit.

Apple discontinues a lot of things that other companies could survive on as a sole product. The iPod mini when the nano came out, the iPod Touchok, maybe just products with the name “iPod” in them. Oh! Also a whole line of 802.11 bas stations including one with a backup disk in itand the iPhone mini, and a bunch of other iPhone variants that sold less then the other iPhones but still better then the majority of Android phones.

Big configuration desktops do sell, just not a lot. I mean back pre-COVID I worked for a company that bought and handed out $16k iMac Pro configurations like they were candy! Granted that was mostly for the large memory config and doesn’t need the MacPro to keep existing! I assume the current Mac Studio is filling that role for them now, and obviously as they were iMac Pros when I was there if Apple makes a big iMac configuration they could be iMac Pros again (although I hope if Apple brings back the iMac Pro they have a target display mode for them!)

That's not how it works. You can't just buy a tract of land. You have to buy the land, jump through hoops to get permits to build, defeat NIMBY lawsuits, get the local municipality to run services, defeat more NIMBY lawsuits, get new permits from a new municipality administration, then finally break ground on construction.

NIMBYs of all stripes throw up roadblocks during the permitting process and will then sue to get an injunction. If you defeat those lawsuits they'll go after the municipalities suing that permits were approved illegally (which they sometimes are).

After several rounds of legal wrangling you can finally start construction. This ends up with only huge developers being able to build because they can absorb all the pre-construction costs until they sell all the homes. They can also afford the scale to benefit from bulk orders and contracts.

The cost of expanding housing is mostly in the project development rather than labor costs of construction. Even if you had construction robots the construction companies would only offer marginal savings as their bids would just be human contractor - 1%. There would be no reason for them to leave money on the table offering a huge discount off human labor.

The product page mentions macOS Tahoe in several places. That should have been a huge giant obvious clue.

That said, I'm surprised there's no market for travel routers that VPN back to home whether for personal travel or for college students.

I’m not. It is a hard value proposition to describe, and not an easy product to set up (I mean as a software product, “make sure the server is on a device you never power off and stays at home...” -- if you make a hardware product it won;t be too hard, one device you leave at home and another you take with you...), if you make it a hardware product it is less difficult to set up, but it is going to cost more. If you make it out of say a pair of RPis it is going to run $70 to more. So “save $17 (a month) by paying $70” is a hard sell. Partly because people aren’t long term thinkers (4+ month payoff is a “long time” to many people), and partly because people have bought things that don’t turn out and they trust things like this less, maybe it appears to work for a few weeks and they spend the $70 and it stops working halfway to the 4 months and they lose out.

It isn’t intuitively obvious to people that a VPN is a fundamental solution to the problem, it is more fancy technical crap. So the people that will trust this product to be a “real answer” aren’t all that numerous, and of those that know a VPM is basically the answer the majority of them know how to set one up already. So the real market is the vanishingly small number of people that know they want a VPN and also don’t know how to set one up already. (to be clear I think it is a fine solution, but you face a marketing issue, you have to convince people that they have a problem that you have the answer for)

Additional complication, some number of people that are the ideal market would be people that legit have the right to use these streaming services and will use the VPN to route around inappropriate roadblocks. Some other (I believe larger, much larger) number of people actually don’t have the rights to use these services and you are helping them violate the terms of service they agreed to. I won’t debate the wisdom of building a business with the primary market being people who are not just willing to violate terms of service but that they desire to do so. I will note that if you basically build a business on “screw netflix and warner and everyone else!” that if netflix&warner&friends feel enough of the pinch that they decide to “see you in court” it is more then an outside chance that you get crushed.

Yeah, I kept mine as the value went up, and then back down. Eventually decided I hadn’t played in a decade and sold them all for $15k which was far more then I bought them for (I bought them a combination of retail and wholesale prices for random packs, never bought a card specifically, nor traded, just bought mass quantities and ended up with some interesting things).

Virtual items do have monetary value, and have for a substantial number of years now. People have been paying real dollars to buy WoW gold for well over a decade, and I assume in games before that.

People value what people value, it sounds dumb because it is so obvious, except people forget it all the time. Something you think is worthless (I assume WoW gold, and Fortnite skins) someone on earth would like to have, and they want it more then they want dollars. It may not make much sense to you, but I’m sure someone wants “a thing” in WoW enough to decide that grinding in parts of the game they don’t find fun is worth trading $5 to get what they want instead of a late at Starbucks. You might think the Latte is worth $5 and a ton of WoW gold is absolutely not, and when it is your $5 your opinion counts, it is basically a fact at the point. If it is someone else’s $5 your opinion is worth less then a warm bucket of spit, and their opinion becomes “basically” fact. That is the cool thing about money it is worth what a buyer and seller agree it is worth.

I personally don’t like buying micro parts of games, but I am willing to buy entire games, and if I’m willing to spend say $45 on a while world, it makes sense to me that some people might pay $1 for a little part of that world, they are saying in effect that it is worth 2% of what the overall experience is to me. Sort of, because money isn’t even with the same amount to everyone. Someone that pays mortgage, food, taxes, and such and has $50 left over for the week is going to be a little stingier with those dollars then someone that pays those things (or has them payed by someone else) and has $1000 or more left over is going to spend those dollars much more freely.

Is it really that weird to you that someone might value a virtual designer purse that exists only so people can show it off (looks fancy!) much like people value real designer purses that exist to both serve the same functions a far less expensive mass market purse and also so people can show it off (looks fancy!)?

Does something have to physically exist for you to decide it has value? Is an entire video game a thing that has value or not? Does the answer change if that game comes on a CD-ROM or is merely a download?

Is it just items inside a game that you don’t think have value? I have to say I’m kind of with you there, I don’t think they tend to rate thousand dollar values to me, nor do individual items tend to rate any signigant value to me (I’m not thrilled with paying say $1 for a stat boost), but I’m clear about the “to me” part. I can see other people making other choices. Like someone wanting in-game gear that makes them more like their peers, maybe no dumber then purchasing the right gym gear at 4x the price of normal gym stuff.

I don’t pay extra for fancy gym clothes though. I don’t tend to pay extra for style period. I pay extra for warm and durable clothes, but not sharp lookin’ stylish clothes. Some people live in warmer places and pay extra for stuff they like the looks of, but not a cent for stuff that is winter-warm because they don’t need that.

It is just as if not more illegal and 10 times the size of any gambling going on with steam

Except as defined here gambling requires a game of chance and a predictive market at least in theory is not about chance but predicting actual events, which in most cases will involve skill (unless the particular event is “what ping pong balls will be pulled from the bucket” or “what numbers on the dice after roll”, but things like “will Russia end the Ukraine war by the end of 2026” are arguably skill based).

More money changes hands in predictive markets. I mean more money changes hands in the stock market but that isn’t considered gambling (although for people that don’t really know what they are doing it basically is).