If you're right, then every court has not only the power and authority, but in fact a duty and an obligation to ensure no parent ever does or fails to do anything which might in any way result in a child's lack of safety. Put your kid in the wrong (unsafe) school? State takes them. Give your kid candy or soda - even once? State takes them. Yell at your kid for running out into the street? State takes them. Let them ride their bicycle without full body protective gear? State takes them. And you go to prison for child abuse.

I don't like that, and I'm not going to allow that. That's why I work on the local, state, and Federal level to keep stupid, idiotic shit like that from happening. I hope it does happen to you, because it's the only way you're going to understand what a dangerous and scary road you're trying to take us down. Parents do not own their children as property, but they do have a biological claim to them and to make decisions as to how best to raise, protect, and care for their own child without the interference of busy-bodies like you or heavily armed agents of the government.

Leave people the fuck alone. Mind your own goddamn business and just leave other people alone. Live your own goddamn life rather than engaging in self-righteous, pompous, arrogant crusades telling everyone else how to live their's. You keep sticking your nose in other peoples' business and eventually you're going to lose that nose. And I'll bet you won't like that very much either.

All based on the premise that disease is a man-made method of inflicting harm upon others.

Sorry friend, nature's been killing people with disease since the first species we'd recognize as "people" stood upright and breathed. Unless someone is deliberately using a disease as a weapon (e.g. self-infecting with Bubonic Plague then strolling through an airport coughing on people), the spread of disease is an act of nature. You don't have the right to force drugs into my bloodstream because you think it might help you survive slightly longer. That's the most offensively invasive trampling of the rights of a human being ever conceived. Any individual of sound mind who finds themselves being strapped to a gurney to have drugs forced into their system is under attack and has every natural born right to defend themselves by any means necessary.

If that's not clear enough, let me make it just a little bit clearer: anyone trying to do this to a sane individual deserves to have that individual end them right then and there. That solves your stupid disease problem, doesn't it.

Giving them anything other than organically grown fruits, veggies, legumes, and water is endangering your kids. You don't own them; the state does. And the state will repossess its kids from you the moment you offer them a soda.

On your knees, citizen scum.

They aren't; those courts are run by fascist pigs.

Doing harm to your child through harmful actions is abuse. Allowing life to happen to you and/or your kids is not. Life is a terminal condition. Covering the Earth in foam padding will not change that. Is it unfortunate that - through the inaction of their parents, who may be totally well intentioned - some unlucky kids will suffer? Yes, just as it's unfortunate whenever anyone suffers. Is that part of life? Yes. Life is too short and too precious to have busy-bodies dictating how everyone else must live their's.

Or we could take the money from those PSAs and use it to work on developing vaccines more people can tolerate. Then we can stand by and let people make their own decisions and live their own lives.

I get what you're saying, but I don't entirely agree with it. I think the ubiquitous presence of all things anti-bacterial is screwing us up pretty badly, but exposing someone to weakened or dead disease causing agents is doing no harm to their immune system; it's helping it build without damaging the rest of the body. That said, I 100% support your right to make those kinds of decisions for your own kids regardless of how I personally judge those decisions and I'll gladly stand against the crusading fascists who'd happily employ agents of the government to bust down your door, strap your kids to a gurney, and jam needles full of drugs into their arms.

That kind of thinking has killed tens of millions more than any lack of vaccination.

You actually believe it's right for government agents to bust down peoples' doors, strap their kids to a gurney, jam a needle in their arms, and pump them full of drugs to achieve a theoretical reduction of risk for some other kids who nature made differently? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

Life is a terminal condition. Quit trying to cover the Earth in foam padding and justifying your self-righteous jackboot promoting crusades into how other people live their lives by claiming it's for the benefit of others. Your ideas were bullshit in 1930s Germany and they're bullshit today.

What's the solution for those kids who nature doesn't allow to receive vaccines in their current form? Do what every other person who's ever lived on this planet has done and roll the fucking dice! Nobody's forcing them to "live in a bubble" as you put it, except maybe you so you can tell them it's for their own good. They can live perfectly normal lives and they're at no higher risk than anyone else who isn't vaccinated. If you really want to help them, invest your own goddamn time, energy, and money to make a better vaccine that they can tolerate. You aren't helping them by constructing a fascist regime of forced drug-taking.

Every time enough people who think like you get together in the same place, millions of people die violently and horribly. Are there any vaccines available against people who think like you? Because I'd love to take all I can get. Your self-righteous indignation leading to fascist crusading sickens me.

Now that's a solution: employ jackboot wearing thugs to bust down peoples' doors, strap their kids to gurneys, and jam needles in their arms so they can be pumped full of drugs. Hey, the 1930s called. They're speaking in German and they'd like their ideas back.

Life is a terminal condition and it's pretty damn short. Quit spending your life trying to run everyone else's and pretending that your self-righteous crusades are justified because of some higher morality. You eat, breathe, and shit just like everyone else. Step back and let other people live their own damn lives and quit running around trying to cover the world in foam padding.

She calls US paranoid for thinking that the government would ever trample our rights.

LK

Most Americans are indolent. Cut 'em off, I say.

Yes, All spending bills must originate in the house but when there is a Republican house and a Democrat president, any attempt to reign in spending is cast by the Democrats as obstructionism and a willing media parrots that narrative until the public demands that the spending continues unabated.

It's funny how a Democratic house with a Republican president doesn't face the same media pressure.

LK

No, you deliberately answered the wrong aspect of the question in order to avoid addressing the fact that you can't run a society that is plagued by a small but toxic fringe of awful people and groups without telling them everything you're doing to stop them, minute by minute. You know this, but you're pretending you're too dumb to grasp it. Why, I can't imagine. You're a transparency puritan troll, I guess.

I wouldn't want to be a traitor to the United States like Mr. Snowdon.

Ah, you really are that dim. Is that physically painful?

You can't really be that dim, which means you're just being disingenuous in the extreme.

But I'll play along.

So in exchange for total transparency, you're willing to let gangs, child traffickers, massive scam operations, and much worse simply carry on? People we now lock up for really evil crap, based on the hard work of undercover cops ... you're cool with them doing business as usual, unmolested by law enforcement because you'd like the child-pimping slime to get updates from the Bureau Of Openness on all government activity?

And don't play stupid. Address the issue.