These days HVDC is getting quite popular. There are good reasons for it too. The insulation requirements are far less demanding and this makes the cables cheaper for a given power level. The ACDC/DCAC converters are getting cheap enough and reliable enough that total costs are lower.

They wouldn't see a blip in the data because data was not collected continuously.

It is really obvious that this is fraud. Its not even done particularly well. Not one but 2 black boxes, not allowed to touch anything, not allowed to measure anything properly. Total interference with the inventor. Oh and these guys have been working with him for more than 2 years. Not so independent. This report is to do nothing more that fleece more cash out of suckers.

No it doesn't, and you can absolutely blame them for that. If you are not even allowed to measure the very thing that its claimed to do, you tell the guy to stick it where the sun don't shine.

It is pretty clear you have no idea about a really simple experiment i would expect anyone in high school science to manage.

I did read it. It is even written very poorly. They make up error intervals, and well you could do somethings with a black box. But they don't even get to touch the black boxes! And they have to ask the inventor to turn it on and off and stuff. Even worse this does not have continues measurement. The last "report" had pulses of power going in!

I think its pretty clear. These scientists are either very senile, or in on the scam. I suspect the later.

Eh yes it is. Really.

The problem is not just that he doesn't explain it. It is that he doesn't even describe it. He keeps what he claims is the magic sauce to make it work an explicit secret. You can't do that in a patent.

Because he doesn't describe anything in these patents. look them up yourself.

Exactly! However many inventors are obsessed with getting really rich. They only people that get rich in these cases are patent attorneys.

This is so far away from basic science standards it wouldn't get 2 min of attention from a reviewer before being outright rejected. For example, what are the errors and how did they arrive at these error intervals? Why not use a proper calorimeter? Perhaps measuring the energy going into the device would even be a better idea. And well hell, you can't do science while someone is telling you to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Hell in this case there isn't even a curtain! Rossi turns the machine on and off and interferes with everything. No real scientist would put their name on this.

You guess wrong. They are not reputable. Read up on them. Look them up. There is *nothing* reputable about this "report" or whatever the hell they call this thing. They have been working with this Rossi guy for over 2 years now, they are in on it and this was done at Rossis place in Italy. And the experiment won't even get a pass at the high school level. Read the other comments. Read the rebuttal from real scientist at Upsala university.

You do know that this is Rossi's 3rd energy Fraud deal. His most famous was turning trash into oil. He got sent to prison for tax fraud and dumping toxic waste that was suppose to be turned into oil. Something like 10000 tons of toxic waste that is, that cost over 40 million to clean up.

They guy is a fraud. These scientist if they still are should know better (at least one of them is retired). Right now i can't see how they can be anything but party to the fraud. Incompetence at this massive level is just unfathomable.

Not if you think about it. But then your AC, so i guess thinking is something you don't do a lot of.

They have been caught funding ALF like stuff.

There is nothing even that consistent with their thought process. They are closer to a terrorist group looking for reasons to justify violence. At least at the top.

he already has like 10 Million. So i guess he needs more. One of his previous ventures, turning trash into oil, ended up costing the state something like 40M to clean up. So perhaps he a 50M + guy before he jumps ship.