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This is fundamentally wrong: the're not only trying to abstract all technologies and flows involved in web page development. Most of these languages and frameworks want to provide the old desktop program flow.
And the way web applications works is a way different than that. A good web programmer need to know all the flow and involved technologies.
Yeap, I've already done some packages, and it's pretty plan: a compressed file with a file for description/depencencies and paths to install. I got more trouble when tried to create an installer for Windows, because I have to rely on install creators.
I started with Ruby about 1 year ago. And until now, work with strings and the symbols is not natural yet to me. I mean, most of the languages I handled until now have only strings.