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Comment Re:Not a surprise, but still... (Score 1) 464

Oh yes!

I pledge allegience,

to the flag

of the United States of America

and to the republic

for which it stands:

one nation

under God,

indivisible,

with liberty and justice for all.

Are you sure to really object to teaching children to say those words? Our country's founders were certainly not perfect, but they set out on a radical experiment in *limited* government where people would be free to pursue their dreams, instead of being more or less the property of the state. Today, those ideals are easy to take for granted because they have become so ingrained in western society.

I happily pledge my allegience to the US flag and for all that it stands for to me, but I fear that the powers that be want to take that away from us and make us live in a world where we take fear and servitude for granted instead; a world where we just shut up and take what they give us.

Instead of objecting to the pledging the flag, why don't you object to the mockery the powers that be have made of what it stands for?

Comment My state exchange web site works fine. (Score 3, Insightful) 144

For what it's worth, I recently moved to Colorado and I've found that their state health insurance exchange web site works just fine. I was able to browse plans available within a few minutes.

I think it goes to show that there's nothing extraordinary difficult about this web site. I suspect cronyism on the part of the federal government. How else can you explain that they paid ~ $600M for a web site that doesn't work. I think they could have handed that money to most anyone who posted to this discussion and gotten a better result.

Comment Re:Illegal, Not Undocumented. (Score 1) 391

You've raised some good points, Darinbob. However, when you say, "Many of these laborers are taking jobs that no one else wants to do", I say, "Many of these laborers are taking jobs that no one else wants to do for the wage that these laborers are willing to do them for."

I believe that the political situation revolves around two simple facts:

1)Politicians, in general, like having a large underclass of citizens who are in need of help, and thus can be enticed to vote for them.

2)Business wants to pay the lowest wage possible (just like you and I want to pay the lowest price possible for anything we buy), and bringing in people from poor countries will tend to depress wages, even for legal workers, simply because they must compete with illegal immigrant labor.

There's no reason Americans wouldn't work agricultural jobs for reasonable wages. Of course, we would pay more for food, but why should we expect that the cost of food should be held down by illegal immigrant labor?

I have sympathy for the plight of poor people from countries like Mexico where it is so hard to earn a decent living, but the politics of it makes me ill.

Comment Re:Illegal, Not Undocumented. (Score 4, Insightful) 391

For immigration activists to call illegal immigrants "undocumented foreign workers" would be like if marijuana legalization activists called marijuana an "undocumented plan", or if the NRA referred to assault rifles as "undocumented firearms".

It's quite clear to me that they're pushing to destroy the working class in this country by flooding us with cheap labor and they're trying to control the language to achieve their goal.

It's hard to believe that back in the day, Henry Ford was proud to say that people who built his company's cars could afford to buy them.

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