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Comment Celebrities are targeted more. (Score 1) 622

But out of the millions of nude photos that are probably sent between cell phone users every month, a vanishly small proportion of them get stolen in security breaches of cloud storage.

But J-Law is not an anonymous nobody that only a very small number of people want to see naked.

There's no reason to think that Jennifer Lawrence and other victims of the hacking scandal underestimated the risk of the photos being stolen from the cloud. If anything, most users are probably over-estimating the risk today

She is not most users, she's a special case. Her risk is not the same, she's much more visible, much more desired.

It's not just a sample of random numbers, there's value attached to these images, and the value of most user's images is much lower than the value of those who are professionally attractive. Something of greater value is obviously at a greater risk of unauthorized access than something of average value.

Comment Re:Where are these photos? (Score 1) 336

Especially since, how would you discriminate between discrimination and outright greed?

That's exactly the problem. Doubt. A team like that needs good morale. Doubt your boss, drop the ball. Err pardon the expression.

I don't think our opinions are that far apart. I don't think we should ever have heard that conversation. The problem was that was a circumstance that couldn't have been unheard.

Anyway, I think we're starting to go in circles here. But I did want to say thanks for the discussion and that I hope you have a good weekend coming up.

Comment Re:Where are these photos? (Score 1) 336

I find it incredibly troubling that private utterances in any context can lead to the loss of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of personal property.

I'd find it troubling if my boss hated me for reasons he should not be and may be under-paying me and a select group of my coworkers as a result of it.

Sterling was burned because he trusted the wrong person. which is an entirely different security matter.

Every year that goes by this just gets fuzzier and fuzzier. Soon your private chat is going to be picked up by somebody at the next table wearing Google Glass. Then the line will shift. And so on.

Comment Re:Where are these photos? (Score 1) 336

"what is your position on the forced sale of the clippers?"

Recording and leaking that audio was wrong. Since it was made public, through no fault of the NBA, it had to be dealt with. It wasn't a "what the US believes" sort of thing, it was an "oop, this got complicated fast, and our players may quit" sort of thing.

I do not believe the forced sale of the clippers is correct. I believe transmission of these photos is fine. this is what they deserve for their blind faith.

These two statements contradict each other. Sterling knows phone conversations can be recorded. He also knew he had an agreement with the NBA to behave. His blind faith lost him the Clippers. Now if you disagree with that statement we're actually a little closer to seeing eye to eye. We probably have differing ideas about where the line of liability should be drawn. Perhaps "phone chats are private but data on the cloud isn't", or something like that. The problem I have with that line of thought is the line between 'phone chat' and 'on the internet' is getting blurrier every year. Worse, we are not all masters of every domain we cross. You may know how to be safe on the internet, that doesn't mean you're super smart and are also super safe at getting your car repaired or at knowing when to use interest-free credit cards.

In either case you've got somebody who did something wrong. It sounds like tough-love right up until you're bitten by it.

Comment Re:Where are these photos? (Score 1) 336

One of the reasons privacy is important is that you don't want somebody, be it the government or some random stranger, having something they can use against you. I don't have any problem with conceding that the NSA's behaviour is a much bigger deal, but when you break things down to their basic components the philosophy is still very much the same whether it's about extorting money or punishment for having that political bumper sticker on your car.

Comment Re:Where are these photos? (Score 4, Insightful) 336

You get a shot at seeing boobies and all the sudden all those complaints you have about the NSA peeking at your files goes flying out the window. When that's brought up all the sudden we've got something worthwhile to spend our mod-points on. Cute.

Let me make this simple in case there's a post-fap-clearer-head lurking around this area of the thread: No, you do not have a good reason to acquire those photos. Yes, you are a bad person for grabbing them and sharing them. No, modding my posts down does not make me wrong about it. You lot, and you know who you are, are despicable.

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