African or European Elephants?

Don't really care about HP, but I just perused the OpenDaylight Homepage. It looks very interesting. Does anyone have any more info regarding it preferabley personal experience? Setup/Use Cases etc etc etc.

Go Away! I'm Baiting!

Ow! My balls!

I'm honestly a bit surprised that no one here has mentioned tools that let you manage things like Sudo rules. I highly recommend a project called FreeIPA, think of it as (horrors) AD for Linux/*nix systems. It can join AD forests, enable kerberos SSO across your org. It provides a nice WWW UI (and if that doesn't suit you, a CLI). It can manage sudo/SELInux Policy/NFS automounts/DNS/HBAC and much much more. When combined (default) with SSSD, it can cache auth creds, sudo rules etc etc... It *really* is a nice project and is probably at the forefront of modern OSS *nix authentication systems.

Editing /etc/sudoers manually is so 1990's

I had one MCSE swear up and down that AD wasn't kerberos + LDAP + special sauce.... When pressed he said "I don't know but its not that!"

I don't find openstack to be overly-complicated for what it provides. Coming from a "I have managed both Openstack and VMware solutions" point of view, it is a rapidly evolving project with many big names behind it that, as as of yet, does not have much polish. That being said there is a tidal wave of support behind openstack at the moment.

If you have the money, VMWare is currently a superior solution, Give OpenStack a few years and I believe it will be on-par or ahead of VMWare.

I like openstack as well, to the point where I rolled our own rpms for it based on the epel stuff. Because Openstack (to use all the neat stuff like OpenVSwitch) needs a lot of fairly cutting edge tech that was not available when RHEL6 was released, I had to package our own kernel to support things like newer virtualization features, OpenVSwitch, new versions of sqlachelmy etc etc etc.

I guess what I'm curious about is, are they backporting all the kernel features and various tech (OpenVSwitch) that will make it a true competitor? or are they sticking with a somewhat lackluster rollout on RHEL6 to maintain compatibility and save the nifty stuff for RHEL7?

Is it going to spy on/track everything you do and report back to it's corporate overlords like iOS and android?

I worked at an ISP using cPanel for a couple hundred shared servers... Let me just say that cPanel is the biggest hunk of crap out there. It is poorly written with no attention paid to security. It is squarely aimed at end-users who have no clue about system administration and has a penchant for letting those same people shoot themselves in the foot as often as possible. cPanel, for instance, lets you format/partition hard drives via the gui without much in the way of instructions or warnings regarding the potential consequences of this action. We had many calls from people who claimed to have done nothing to their servers but turned out that they were trying to free up space and formatted /var or /. We often joked that we should cretaed a page in the GUI with a bug red button that says "Do NOT push" that would add an iptables rule to drop all connections from that IP and wait for the hilarity to commence.

Here's how I understand it. Tomcat would be "just an application server" stuff that runs on top of tomcat would be the middleware. So JBOSS includes a application server and a bunch of other useful stuff. JBOSS is/used to be a pay-redhat to use it, and therefore never really gained a big community. Redhat is just renaming it and releasing it to the Fedora community in hopes that it gains more users and therefore should translate into pay-redhat for support.

Did I miss something? Why are you calling him a shill?

Regardless of whether he proves to be a shill or not, I think Daniel Hoffmann is 100% correct with this post. Every one of his points are spot on. Large IT Orgs are dinosaurs with a lot of inertia and it takes a lot to get them to start moving. Him blaming Microsoft seems a bit tongue-in-cheek to me as I don't think MS wants people to be using XP/IE8 anymore either.

There are many, many high end things out there that require Java Applets to manage, the highest end one, that I deal with daily, I can think of is HP Blade Chassis. We have racks of these things (c7000's) and the Management GUI is a Java Browser Applet. Yes, they have a CLI as well, but the CLI seems to only cover about 90-95% of the features. Plus, when you're dealing with something as complex as a blade chassis (switches/NICS/servers/arrays) having things presented logically in a GUI can help understanding and comprehension of what you are dealing with.

GUI's done with even a little thought and foresight can help prevent traumatic brain injuries by reducing the need to repeatedly smash your head into your desk.

Just to add to this,

OpenJDK is the official Java 7 reference platform and is fully "open", Oracle java is basically OpenJDK with a different browser plugin and some proprietary components (webstart , hotspot, etc) and while IcedTea used to be a full java implementation, it is my understanding that it is basically just an open source version of the proprietary components (WebStart) now.

Oracle is one of the main sponsors/contributors to OpenJDK as well as Redhat and a slew of other companies. The Wikipedia link in the above comment is quite informative.

If you read the article, it appears that DuPont the chemical manufacturer is the one pushing it, because it's patents on R666 (or whatnot) are about to expire. it was approved via the SNAP process because based on Duponts documentation that it was supposedly safer for the environment. Mercedes own testing caught this flammability/poison issue and recalled every single car it made that used it. So far 2013 Cadillacs and Toyotas are still using it.

I'm not sure how much of this "approval" you wish to pin on whats-her-face that she actually had control over. Or whether she was just following the guidelines that congress told her to follow. There seems to be too much political spin either way to get a honest feel for this issue.

I'm not subscribing unless it supports the "OtherOS" option as well as rootkit installs. If it does, I'll get two.

Yeah, but what I want to know is how many megameters to I get per fuck-ton or ass-load of battery?