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Comment Re:One reason: Annoyance (Score 1) 237

So you have 15 seconds to listen to the preamble, which leaves you 45 seconds to leave a message.

Since you can get it done in under 10 seconds, I fail to see why you are complaining.

Because you already spent 25 seconds waiting for the phone to ring (for which cellular providers charge, but not land line long distance providers), plus 7 listening to the greeting that the user recorded.

Comment Re:Thanks & IMPORTANT question.. apk (Score 1) 294

seems rather "odd" that WHEN I DON'T MAKE *ANY* DNS REQUESTS @ ALL, that they could stop me thus

That's because a proper captive portal will MITM not only every DNS request on port 53 but also every HTTP request on port 80, no matter to what IP address, and block connections to unapproved IP addresses on all other ports. So even if your machine produces no outgoing packets on TCP or UDP port 53, the captive portal still grabs you when your machine opens a connection on port 80.

Comment Re:Gawd I hated it! (Score 1) 237

If you're just going to leave a message that says "call me back" then send an email or a text or an IM.

Not all cellular devices and plans support e-mail or IM, and sending a text from a flip phone is painful even with T9.

Comment Mobile e-mail requires a mobile data plan (Score 4, Interesting) 237

When you send somebody an email you're doing them the courtesy of pre-organizing your thoughts

Not everybody pays for a $500 per year smartphone plan. For example, sometimes it might be hours before I can get to an open Wi-Fi connection through which to send an e-mail from my laptop, but I can leave a voice mail from my $80/year flip phone. What would be the most polite way for someone like me to call you?

Comment Pay-per-minute line (Score 1) 237

There is still a ton of people around thinking leaving a message is some kind of race and you have nearly 10 seconds to tell about your whole life.

That's probably because they're calling you on a pay-per-minute line and want to finish their message as fast as they reasonably can in order not to be billed for a second minute. Land line providers charge extra for long distance. Cell phones have free long distance, but less expensive plans charge per minute for airtime. Finally, international calls are expensive on pretty much any popular provider. This is made even worse by the lengthy instructions that many carriers append to the greeeting: "At the tone, please record your message. When you're finished recording, you may hang up or press 1 for more options. To leave a callback number, press 5."

I would like to see phone plans without talking minutes and a base rate for SMS/text

Pay as you go plans are like that. Or try Ting, a Sprint MVNO operated by Tucows that separates talk, text, and data billing into three independent bins. But good luck sending text messages to or from a land line.

Comment Re:youmail (Score 2) 237

if i see you called

A lot of people who rely on voice mail don't pay the extra $8 per month for Caller ID.

and i want to talk to you, i call you back.

"Hello?"

"Hi, this is Staisy, What's going on?"
"I explained everything in the voice mail I left."

What's the polite way to continue?

Comment Re:Hosts *may* work in 1 case (DNS redirect) (Score 1) 294

Since the DNS *is* "poisoned" (redirected), hosts SHOULD work

That'd be true if DNS poisoning is the only layer that a provider uses to corral users into their captive portal. But based on my own experience with captive portals, that's rarely the case. Say you have 123.45.67.89 www.example.com in your hosts file. Any HTTPS connection to 123.45.67.89:443 will produce either "Connection refused" or a certificate error. Any HTTP connection to 123.45.67.89:80 will produce a Location: redirect to the page for expressing filtering preferences.

Comment Re:Hotspot (Score 1) 294

How is not hijacking HTTP any worse than doing it once ? My ISP just sends me an e-mail if they want to tell me something

You'd be able to access your ISP's mail and its billing department. Everything else, such as third-party webmail and POP3 or IMAP connections, would be hijacked or blocked until the householder expresses a filtering preference.

Where's the need to mess with everybody's HTTP connection ?

To save on costs of fielding telephone calls from people who can't get through to any web site because they don't know where to go to express a filtering preference, and everything but expressing a filtering preference is blocked.

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