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Comment Re:A wish from an American (Score 1) 114

"Well, Mr. Justice, it appears from the following web searches you made over the last eight months that you like chicks with dicks. Now you can either rule for the the Government, or the Wall Street Journal gets a hot new exclusive..."

Funny that your post includes the word "dick," because that is what you have for proof that has gone on.

You're writing fiction in which the "seriousness" of the "charge" is its own "evidence." You might as well claim that you have proof that every judge on the Supreme Court has sold their soul to the Devil to be appointed to the court. And spare me the "before Snowden" routine on this one since that is bull in this case.

There is equal proof that you are the FSB agent that recruited Snowden as a Russian agent on Putin's order.

Comment Re: Hitler and the NAZIs were so stupid. (Score 1) 292

The chemical weapons found were supplied by the US during the Iran Iraq war.

That is completely false. The US never supplied any chemical weapons to Iraq. Iraq manufactured its own chemical weapons in programs developed with Egypt, and IIRC Syria.

Only a dimwit would confuse the ability to create these weapons with finding a small number of expired weapons.

Saddam was not allowed to retain any of those weapons and was frustrating inspections, and that violated his obligations.

If Bush thought they would exonerate his crime (invading a sovereign country before any aggressive move on the part of the invaded, against all international law),

President Bush didn't violate international law. Iraq regularly violated its cease fire agreement by firing upon coalition aircraft and other actions. Those are commonly known as acts of war. And that is before you get to Saddams many crimes against humanity, acts of aggression, and violation of UN Security Council resolutions.

Comment Re: Hitler and the NAZIs were so stupid. (Score 1) 292

I have no idea how anyone can come up with the idea of calling that "socialist". Socialism is all about a caring, democratic and sustainable society with enough measures to keep sociopaths from running wild. Not a trace of that can be found in the Nazi ideology - they were a bunch of suicidal maniacs, dreaming (if they dreamt at all) of some imaginary children-story past where they were the princes - with a Cinderella to fuck thrown in. It's as if you call someone who tortures, kills and robs your next door neighbour and gives you a dime from the loot a "socialist".

Your paragraph above reveals a huge stumbling block in discussion. You are making "socialism" do double duty. In your usage it isn't a question of economic arrangements and social safety nets, but it has to double for nice, caring, sustainable, and so on. That is the real reason you find it difficult to acknowledge the socialist roots and policies of the National Socialists - they weren't nice and you can't imagine socialists are that aren't nice. Good = socialism, and socialism = good. Unfortuantely the socialists of the Marxist Communist persuasion have provided an enormous example of socialism that isn't good, caring, and all the rest. The Communists managed to kill 100,000,000 people in the last 100 years and yet it is farsical to try to claim that they weren't socialists. In fact while they were establishing state ownership and controlof the practically all of the economy they were also enacting class warfare, exterminating the class enemy, just as Marx and Engels wrote. But if you bother to watch the Soviet Story, or do some research, you'll know that Marx and Engels advanced the idea of exterminating both classes and races. The Communists (international socialists) destroyed by class, the National Socialists (Nazis) destroyed by race.

 

If you insist on using the word like that then discussions are useless - if you play humpty-dumpty and try to make words mean what you want them to mean communication becomes rather pointless.

Then we will probably be at an impass until you stop trying to make the word "socialist" to double, or triple duty. You can't reasonably refuse to call certain groups of socialists socialist just becuase you don't think they were nice enough to merit your overloaded use of the word socialist even though they enacted socialist policies.

And for the record, yes, there were industrialists that backed Hitler, much to their later regret. They thought they had a deal and could control Hitler, but it ended up being a deal with the devil and that devil had the upper hand that grew ever more powerful. Ultimately the Nazi state controlled the industrialists.

Comment Re: Hitler and the NAZIs were so stupid. (Score 1) 292

Your post is essentially misdirection. Strasser wasn't the only member of the Nazi party that favored socialism. I seem recall that both Goebbels and Eichmann survived the Night of the Long Knives (A bit of an understatement.) for example. The National Socialists were not simply engaged in rhetoric but enacted a variety of policies consistent with socialism. I can understand the desperate attempt to claim that the National Socialists weren't really socialists in any way since some people conflate the concepts of socialism and goodness and the Nazis were certainly not good.

Hitler's Handouts - Inside the Nazis' welfare state

Adolf Eichmann viewed National Socialism and communism as “quasi-siblings,” explaining in his memoirs that he “inclined towards the left and emphasized socialist aspects every bit as much as nationalist ones.” As late as 1944, Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels publicly celebrated “our socialism,” reminding his war-weary subjects that Germany “alone [has] the best social welfare measures.” ....

.... To “achieve a truly socialist division of personal assets,” he [Aly] writes, Hitler implemented a variety of interventionist economic policies, including price and rent controls, exorbitant corporate taxes, frequent “polemics against landlords,” subsidies to German farmers as protection “against the vagaries of weather and the world market,” and harsh taxes on capital gains, which Hitler himself had denounced as “effortless income.”

Aly demonstrates convincingly that Nazi “domestic policies were remarkably friendly toward the German lower classes, soaking the wealthy and redistributing the burdens of wartime.” And with fresh memories of Weimer inflation, “transferring the tax burden to corporations earned the leadership in Berlin considerable political capital, as the government keenly registered.”

For instance, at the outset of war Nazi economists established a “wartime tax of 50 percent on all wages” that applied only to the wealthiest Germans. In the end, Aly writes, “only 4 percent of the population paid the full 50 percent surcharge.”

Putting the Socialism Back Into National Socialism:

The idea that Nazism was an extreme form of "capitalism" and Hitler primarily a tool serving the interests of "big business" is a longstanding myth that even now retains a measure of popularity in some quarters. This, despite the fact that the full name of the Nazi Party was the National Socialist German Workers' Party, and that Nazi political strategy was explicitly based on combining the appeal of socialism with that of nationalism (thus the choice of name). Once in power, the Nazis even went so far as to institute a Four Year Plan for running the German economy, modeled in large part on the Soviet Union's Five Year Plans.

I. The Socialist Elements of Nazism.

Two recent books further explain the socialist elements of Nazi economic policy, and will hopefully put the final nails in the coffin of the myth that the Nazis were "capitalists" or free marketeers. In The Wages of Destruction: The Making and Breaking of the Nazi Economy, historian Adam Tooze describes the statist nature of Nazi economic policy in great detail, and concludes that the Nazis imposed greater government control over the economy than any other noncommunist regime in modern history. (pp. 658-60). Tooze notes that, even before the outbreak of World War II, government military spending accounted for some 20% of the GDP, while much of the rest of the economy came under government control as a result of the Four Year Plan and other similar measures.

In Hitler's Beneficiaries: : Plunder, Racial War, and the Nazi Welfare State, Gotz Aly argues on the basis of extensive evidence, that German support for Nazi rule was maintained by the creation of a massive welfare state funded in large part by plunder captured in Hitler's foreign conquests, but also partly by means of "soak the rich" taxation within Germany itself.

Comment Re:Some comfort (Score 1) 292

If you think that is so, then I would say you aren't very observant.

But where you respond with poetry, I'll respond with prose.

Iraq's WMD: The Shameless New York Times Moves the Goalposts

Now comes the 10,000-word, eight-part story in The New York Times. The front-page story, called "The Secret Casualties Of Iraq's Abandoned Chemical Weapons," says WMD were in Iraq: "In all, American troops secretly reported finding roughly 5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs, according to interviews with dozens of participants, Iraqi and American officials, and heavily redacted intelligence documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act."

Moreover, the soldiers were told to keep quiet about the WMD:

"Troops and officers were instructed to be silent or give deceptive accounts of what they had found. ?'Nothing of significance' is what I was ordered to say,' said Jarrod Lampier, a recently retired Army major who was present for the largest chemical weapons discovery of the war: more than 2,400 nerve-agent rockets unearthed in 2006 at a former Republican Guard compound.

"Jarrod L. Taylor, a former Army sergeant on hand for the destruction of mustard shells that burned two soldiers in his infantry company, joked of 'wounds that never happened' from 'that stuff that didn't exist.' The public, he said, was misled for a decade. 'I love it when I hear, 'Oh there weren't any chemical weapons in Iraq,' he said. 'There were plenty.'"

Cheers, and on a wild guess I'll recommend that maybe you should cut down on your "recreational" use of controlled substances

Comment Re: Hitler and the NAZIs were so stupid. (Score 3, Informative) 292

Before I comment on WMDs in Iraq I will remind you that there were something like 20 causes of action against Iraq, many of which were clear cut and indisputable. Others were also confirmed after the invasion, such as finding Iraq's banned long range missiles, and unfilled chemical warheads for those missiles. There have been hundreds of mass graves found in Iraq which amply testify to the many crimes against humanity committed by the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein, not to mention his wars and acts of aggression against many of his neighbors.

As to the WMDs, approximately 5,000 chemical and biological weapons were found, and the allowable number was zero (0).

Iraq's WMD: The Shameless New York Times Moves the Goalposts

Now comes the 10,000-word, eight-part story in The New York Times. The front-page story, called "The Secret Casualties Of Iraq's Abandoned Chemical Weapons," says WMD were in Iraq: "In all, American troops secretly reported finding roughly 5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs, according to interviews with dozens of participants, Iraqi and American officials, and heavily redacted intelligence documents obtained under the Freedom of Information Act."

Moreover, the soldiers were told to keep quiet about the WMD:

"Troops and officers were instructed to be silent or give deceptive accounts of what they had found. ?'Nothing of significance' is what I was ordered to say,' said Jarrod Lampier, a recently retired Army major who was present for the largest chemical weapons discovery of the war: more than 2,400 nerve-agent rockets unearthed in 2006 at a former Republican Guard compound.

Some of those weapons were still being held in a major Iraqi military base overrun by ISIS.

I hope that helps.

Comment Re: Hitler and the NAZIs were so stupid. (Score 1) 292

That's a sporting try you made, but it ultimately fails. There are too many inconvenient facts standing in your way, not to mention the National Socialist (Nazi) - International Socialists (Soviet Communists) cooperation in numerous area prior to the German invasion (which preempted a Soviet invasion), not to mention elements of the French Left going to Hitler early on.

Comment Some comfort (Score 1, Interesting) 292

Even though we have this distrubing news of a missed WMD program in Austria that lay hidden for 70 years under occupation and democratic governments, we still have the assurance of "top men" that we known all and found everything in Iraq. Yes indeed, ... "top men" .... some even post here.

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