Let me fix that for you.
The customer requested "something." They got "something else".
"something" = solicited
"something else"= unsolicited
Intimidate, no. Just making sure your comments stick with you into the future.
Look at that, I replied to myself. I'd hate to rob you of your argument and you not see it... so here's a repost.
Your definition, and I quote your previous post:
Solicited does not mean desired or intended. It means that it was the product of a previous existing business relationship.
The definition of solicit has no requirement (or mention) of a previous existing relationship. And it does, in fact, mean (and I quote from the actual definition this time):
to make a petition or request, as for something desired.
The definition makes no mention of the fulfillment of the solicitation.
Furthermore, the original course of this thread started when you posited that the act of soliciting a specific thing meant that delivery of any other thing meant that the delivered item was solicited - leading to the current thread path providing the definition of solicit to you.
Why don't you ask, Nicholas Kittleson. He's the attorney that owns the site you're advertising in your signature. I'm sure he'll set you straight about the legal definitions. My guess is that you're his friend Marc Whinery.
Your definition, and I quote your previous post:
Solicited does not mean desired or intended. It means that it was the product of a previous existing business relationship.
The definition of solicit has no requirement (or mention) of a previous existing relationship. And it does, in fact, mean (and I quote from the actual definition this time):
to make a petition or request, as for something desired.
The definition makes no mention of the fulfillment of the solicitation.
Furthermore, the original course of this thread started when you posited that the act of soliciting a specific thing meant that delivery of any other thing meant that the delivered item was solicited - leading to the current thread path providing the definition of solicit to you.
Why don't you ask, Nicholas Kittleson. He's the attorney that owns the site you're advertising in your signature. I'm sure he'll set you straight about the legal definitions. My guess is that you're his friend Marc Whinery.
An Anonymous Coward provided the definition, I'll re-post it for you.
The AC posted:
please refrain from redefining solicit. it has never meant that
In case your clicky finger is broken:
solicit [suh-lis-it] Show IPA
verbs 7
verb (used with object)
1.
to seek for (something) by entreaty, earnest or respectful request, formal application, etc.:
He solicited aid from the minister.
2.
to entreat or petition (someone or some agency):
to solicit the committee for funds.
3.
to seek to influence or incite to action, especially unlawful or wrong action.
4.
to offer to have sex with in exchange for money.
verb (used without object)
5.
to make a petition or request, as for something desired.
6.
to solicit orders or trade, as for a business:
No soliciting allowed in this building.
7.
to offer to have sex with someone in exchange for money.
Origin
1400–50; late Middle English soliciten
Only a person desperate to win would try to pull a stunt like making up a bogus definition to support his argument.
Did you think nobody would notice?
Let's change 3 words to see how that statement sounds with actual items from, say - a restaurant.
They solicited a quiche. They received an omlet. Thus the omlet, even if not what was expected, was solicited.
Wow. I bet you're in sales.
through an obvious database mistake
A mistake not made by the customer, but by the merchant.
The customer didn't order the PS Vita Tearaway Bundle - therefore the PS Vita Tearaway Bundle was unsolicited.
When I need mod points - I don't have them.
That's a well deserved "dumb ass" if I ever saw one.
What improvement?
It was successfully tested against a variety of modern vehicles with no modifications. Presumably, one would need to drive an older vehicle without the electronic vulnerability or harden the electronics of his vehicle to be immune to the effects.
If a car catches fire when it's not in an accident, and it wasn't intentionally set ablaze - I would call that spontaneous.
And I learned something new today - reading list adjusted!
I was right there with you, thinking "what does puppet, chef and salt have to do with Enders Game?"
I forgive you for the errant apostrophe....just so you can't say that the whole world is against you.
Nobody else will forgive you - but I will.
You should expand on QA - or...I will.
QA is tasked to the very butts-in-seats who were tasked with writing the application. Being lazy bastards, they don't write QA tests that test functionality in all scenarios - they write QA tests that always pass in unrealistic perfect data scenarios.
You also missed the hand-off and ongoing support contracts.
The application is then handed to the customer. Naturally, the customer accepts delivery when all of the QA tests pass with flying colors. They begin training their users on the new system - which is made more difficult because as the users gain new knowledge - they lose old knowledge. Many die after forgetting how to breathe. Those who survive begin to input data that causes errors that the QA process was meant to catch. A support ticket is opened and the process starts over again. This generates another contract to fix the bug, which makes the managers happy because they get to have more "butts to bill".
I stand corrected. It seems they are planning these things for future versions. It isn't currently true though.
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