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Comment Re:The campfire gave rise to two things (Score 2) 89

It doesn't matter how prestigious the publication is, if it doesn't actually support what you want to think it does.

Last sentence of first paragraph:

The subjective nature and absence of a frame of reference for this experience lead to individual, cultural, and religious factors determining the vocabulary used to describe and interpret the experience.

Did you actually read that far? Or are you just citing it because some authority figure told you it supports your religious beliefs?

Comment Re:MAD (Score 1) 342

They apparently used it in the Crimea. (Some sources say Sevastopol, others Kerch.)

According to Wikipedia, when they interrogated Goering after the war, he told them the reason they didn't use their nerve gas to repulse the landings at Normandy was that they hadn't been able to make an effective gas mask for horses. The german army still relied primarily on horses for transport, and everyone learned in WWI that gas doesn't always go where you want it to.

At the end, Hitler didn't care a fig what happened to Germany. He said they had failed their destiny, and he ordered destruction of their own infrastructure. He also dragged the war on for months after it was obviously lost, to the great harm of the Geman people.

If deterrence worked, we wouldn't have had two world wars.

Comment Re:It's about time ... (Score 1) 133

Bullshit. The red shift is because the low-frequency visual rays projected by the human eye has a longer range than the high-frequency ones. (The range is a limit on the number of wavelengths the rays can extend.)

A dog would see the universe entirely differently. (Who ever met a dog that believed in a cosmic red shift?)

Comment Re:Still some wiggle room (Score 1) 133

Sure. Go ahead and send me the dollar in case one of us dies unexpectedly.

And while it's in the mail... even if there was reason to doubt the big bang, why the heck do you think we would go back to a steady state universe? The universal trend in science is to discover that the universe and all its workings are far stranger than we thought, not more intuitive.

Intuition comes from brains that evolved to operate on a certain scale of space and time. When we start getting away from that in any direction (larger or smaller scales), our intuitions become utterly useless as a guide to what we will find.

Comment Re:Cue "All we are is dust in the wind" (Score 1) 133

Just so it's completely clear (the parent is probably aware of this): The dust levels do not cast the Big Bang into doubt.

I was surprised, and even mildly offended, that the recent discovery was being hyped as "proof of the big bang". The long-ago discovery of the CMB is one of the handful of science's greatest achievements.

Comment Re:Cue "All we are is dust in the wind" (Score 1) 133

I'm an "old earth" creationist. The Earth is obviously old. But I do beleive in a Creator. Science shows us several things in this regard.

- The universe did not come from nothing. Thermodynamics prevents this.
- The universe did not create itself. Thermodynamics prevents this.
- The universe was created by an intelligent Creator is the sole, logical conclusion.

God for me is faith. Science still can prove, one way or another, the origins of the universe with science. Science is a useful tool given to us by God via our increased knowledge as we grow as a species. God and science go hand in hand. One cannot exist without the other.

Suppose we discovered that our universe was created by a non-supernatural being that lives in a "parent" universe.

Would we worship that being?

Would we unquestioningly do whatever it wanted?

Would we look to it for ethical guidance?

Would we look to it for the meaning of life?

Comment Re:Take 2:That's one small step for _A_ man, one g (Score 1) 275

Moon landing take 2: Ok Neil, but this time you need to say, "One step for A man... one giant leap for mankind." Don't flub your line or "One small step fur man" will be in the history books.

Producer: No! Leave it in - a minor human slip will make it more believable.

911 Conspiracy take 2: The first take was Ok but we need to swap out the Saudis and Egyptian hijackers. You guys are supposed to be our allies. Can we get at least one Iranian, Iraqi or Afghani hijackers? How the heck are we gonna start a war? How about a North Korean?

Turns out that the demographics didn't have much effect on where the war was started.

Comment Re:It's got to be biological (Score 1) 89

I could introduce you to a couple of blind people that I know...

Though I think that for one of them, staring intently into a campfire might have been a contributor.

I have a little scar in one eyebrow where my younger brother poked me with a hot coathanger while toasting marshmallows at the beach. I'm about half an inch from being blind in one eye due to a campfire.

Comment Re:The campfire gave rise to two things (Score 1) 89

Many, many tales in many religious traditions are simply oral histories, eventually written down. There's quite a bit of good history there, both in stories at least "inspired by real events", and fairly accurate representations of customs and values of ancient peoples.

They also tend to contain a lot of superstition, prejudice, ignorance, outright nonsense, and religious/social/political spin.

(Just like secular literature.)

Comment Re:The campfire gave rise to two things (Score 1) 89

That second link has been posted here recently enough that my browser still shows it as visited. It *uttterly* failed to support the claims of the person who posted it, leaving the impression that they hadn't actually read it. Or maybe read it and didn't understand it. Or maybe read it and understood it, but thought they could get away with misrepresenting it. Who knows...

In your case... uhm... what claim about history, religion, or ghost stores do you think it supports? Merely posting a link doens't win a vague argument, nor does it make your personal beliefs real.

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