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Comment Re: But now part of the historical narrative? (Score 1) 621

Because a public referendum is an infinitely superior choice for issues like this, as opposed to trusting an elite few who represent monied interests first and the people a very distant second.

How come? Do you also think that treatment of a brain tumor is best determined by popular vote? I'm pretty sure a brain surgeon represents his income first and his patients only a very distant second.

Comment Re:But now part of the historical narrative? (Score 1) 621

Dude, you had at least 6 elections to elect representatives that would do what you want them to do. If Maastricht was such a big deal, why wasn't Maastricht an important topic in any election? You live in a representative democracy, so take your responsibility and vote in people that will do what you want them to do, and actually have a plan doing it.

But guess what, only loonies were up for that job. So essentially, the UK couldn't find representatives to get themselves out of the EU, so now they're telling people that think this is a absolutely terrible idea to plan an exit. Good thinking.

Comment Re:What did you expect? (Score 1) 621

These minorities are asking for a second vote. So what is the majority afraid of? If there is an actual majority supporting leave, the second vote would surely turn out the same, right? It's a bit like an operating system, when you ask it to something potentially destructive, it will ask you for a confirmation "[Y/N]". If it is absolutely destructive (such as removing Perl from a Debian operation system), you will have to enter "Yes, do as I say".

It's quite clear that the 'majority' is shit-scared that the emperor doesn't have clothes, and that a confirmation referendum would see a 55% remain vote.

Comment Re:As it's been said... (Score 1) 621

Yes. They voted to restrict immigration recently. Now they're seeing that it has severe fall-out with the EU freezing their involvement in programs that involve free movement of people. Most notably research. So Switzerland will soon have a new referendum on the issue.

Comment Re:By far... (Score 3, Insightful) 485

The fact is that Tesla states that: ""Autopilot is by far the most advanced driver assistance system on the road, but it does not turn a Tesla into an autonomous vehicle and does not allow the driver to abdicate responsibility."

According to the GP, while taking human psychology into account, this is what makes this a fundamentally flawed and extremely dangerous product. People will watch Harry Potter movies in this car, they will have horrible response times because they don't need to pay attention, they will get into accidents when the 'driver assistent' fails, and Tesla will try to abdicate responsibility each and every time based on contractual terms.

Comment Re: Go for broke! (Score 1) 634

As long as the population keeps on voting the elitists into office, yes, they can do this. Referendums are not the answer, voting in people that represent you is. But apparently that's too difficult for the Brits as they managed to vote in at least 70% MP's that do not agree with the 52% that want to leave.

Comment Re:No (Score 1) 634

If the people choose to leave, they should freaking vote in people that agree with them. As it stands, they voted in a parliament where 70% of their representatives don't agree with them. If it's that important to them, they should vote in UKIP or something. But they don't, because they realize that the only people willing to govern and follow them on this issue are nutjobs that will screw the country even worse than the bunch of fucktards they prefer over them. And what does that say about their opinion?

Comment Re:Super majority (Score 1) 634

How many times did the UK have a chance to elect parliament since 1975? If this issue was that important, it seems you had ample opportunity to vote in people that would step out of the EU and deal with the consequences. And here you are: voted to leave the EU with a parliament that doesn't want to do this. Vote in people that can lead you out of the EU instead of being a spoilt child and force the grownups to deal with your tantrum.

Comment Re:(cough)Was a supermajority, or even a simple... (Score 1) 634

And still, with all that stuff going on, the population of the UK voted for a parliament where 'remain' gets a 70% vote. If the UK wants to leave the EU, they should at least have the wits to vote in representatives that want it too. They didn't. So what now? Ignore the democratic institutions that are set up to handle exactly these kind of questions?

It's actually quite ironic. The population of the UK mistrusts their own representatives so much that they have the need to counteract them in a referendum that in the end will give these same representatives that they mistrust a must greater power over their lives. People are just stupid I guess.

Comment Re:Super majority (Score 1) 634

Nope, but it got one. 67%. I think in a representative democracy there can only be one type of referendum. A recall. Do you agree with the current parliament majority on this particular issue, or, do you find this issue important enough to disband parliament and do a re-election to vote in people that agree with a change in direction?

Comment Re:Super majority (Score 1) 634

Well, if you would hold a referendum next week, you probably get a different result. Hold it next month, and the result will be different yet again. There's a reason that we don't have direct democracies in the Western world and have opted for representative democracies. Ronald Reagan was chosen to represent the American population as president, with limited mandate, checks and balances around him, under the assumption that he could make balanced decisions (which I all disagreed with, btw, but I don't argue his mandate). If the UK population wants to leave the EU they should vote in people that share this opinion. In contrast, two years ago, they voted in people of which 70% are against leaving. So the sum total of direction is inconsistent. If the population thinks this is the single most important issue, they'd better vote in the representatives that will enforce this. They didn't think it was that important at that time, and guess what, if they would hold elections at this point in time instead of this stupid referendum, they would still vote in a majority that would be against leaving. Simply because they think other things are more important than this particular issue.

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