.. you mean, how the firmware is clearbsd licenced?

Except for the Tensilica runtime, that's MIT licenced?

Except for two GPLv2 files from ECoS? Which state that only those two files fall under GPL, not the rest of the stuff it's compiled with?

I'm pretty sure it's free like you wish. You can create a closed source derivative of the firmware if you so choose.

The master mode operation in firmware right now is limited to a handful (4? 8?) clients.

Whatever the max is before it runs out of RAM.

I think it just refuses to take on new associations.

You're welcome!

Things then crash. :-)

Embedded software looks different to your Linux/FreeBSD kernel development. There's fixed buffers allocated for things. Once those buffers are full, everything stops until they're not full.

If you want more information please subscribe to the ath9k firmware list and ask questions there. I'd rather everyone benefit from the answers!

The FSF decided to investigate this AR9271 part. I'm not sure why.

The AR7010+AR9280 NICs are dual-band. There's AR7010+AR9283 NICs that are 2x2 2.4ghz only. The AR7010+AR9287 NICs are also 2x2 2.4GHz only but support a few newer things (like short-GI in 20MHz mode, and generally better behaviour all around.)

Hopefully the FSF certifies the AR7010 based firmware devices too. But, they've chosen this one and I'm glad they saw it through.

I don't know if there's a hardware list that shows the dual-band ath9k_htc hardware. But it's out there, somewhere.

The people that want to do dirty hacks, like mesh or TDMA offload on the USB NIC.

Or even improved hostap support.

Or an experimental platform for ${THING_YOU_HAVENT_THOUGHT_OF_YET}.

Yes, you can buy cheaper NICs. Same as buying cheaper anything. But here's a USB NIC with a well-understood wifi part (AR9285 on-die) and now open firmware with open tools to fiddle with the thing. If the FSF and manufacturers manage to ship a million units, great. I'm happy just knowing that people are doing interesting stuff with it. Doubly so if I haven't thought of it yet. Triply so if it's cool and turns out to be transferrable to the other Atheros wifi hardware out there.

The wifi part of the hardware does. One of the reasons we opened up the firmware was to let people at it to make it better at supporting master mode.

The NIC has a small embedded CPU to act as a PCIeUSB gateway and a small amount of RAM to run code and buffer frames. The problem with master mode is the amount of RAM that you need for each associated station. So there's been discussion about moving some of the stuff done in the NIC CPU (transmit aggregation, rate control) into the host, so the NIC itself doesn't need to store (that much|any) per-station state.

The underlying wifi parts are the same as the PCI(e) chips of that era; the same basic features are supported.

Now that the firmware source is open and the UART wiring instructions are public, there's enough basic stuff there to figure it out.

We're digging up instructions for JTAG debugging.

Have you tried PC-BSD?

There were plenty of games that installed their own loaders in order to bypass the intentionally-slow 1541 drive interface.

They could get it up to what, ~38400 reliably? Maybe faster? I forget. It was pretty zippy for the time.

.. except, how will it play out if they decide to infringe on your patents? You can't attack them then; suddenly you fall afoul of their "free" patents and now you're screwed.

That's a common way of doing it in the US. I don't agree with it; it's basically saying "Hey your needs trump the needs of the social group", but .. that's very American.

.. because they're making the cells, not using the cells.

PCBSD is getting there. I still run FreeBSD-9 and FreeBSD-HEAD on laptops. But I've used PCBSD on netbooks and laptops - when the hardware support is there, it's actually rather pleasant.

The only hardware support issues have been video and wifi. I can fix the latter, I can't fix the former. :)