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Comment Re:Shit Happens (Score 4, Interesting) 428

I've been an A&P for over 35 years and I've seen worse.
(by pilots and mechanics)

In Chuck Yeager's biography he talked about an assembly mechanic who was installing a bolt the wrong way, even though his instructions said the right way to do it. Resulted in numerous fighter plane crashes and almost killed Yeager when he was test flying one of the planes to see what was causing the crashes.

Comment Re:Well that depends... (Score 1) 160

If all they are asking is for Google to optimize its network usage, as the article seems to imply, go all out.

If its telling Google to try and control the amount of bandwidth the users decide to use, well, I think they are going to have a little trouble getting that done.

I do not necessarily advocate this, but can't they detect individual users and throttle(?) or filter those control signals? If that takes more resources than just letting Androids bog down the system, I withdraw my question.

Comment Re:How does the $70 math work? (Score 1) 744

Let's say a Chinese worker gets $1.50/hr ($17 for an 11.3 hr day).

Let's say "US like wages" are 10x - $15/hr. So, $170 in wages or $153 more per day.

That's just a little more than TWO iPads that cost $70 each, more, to produce. This implies a worker only makes 2.2 iPads a day? Something doesn't add up. I know there is more than one worker needed - just a WAG, let's say there are 100 workers on an assembly line - surly you get more than 220 iPads out the end of the line per day, no?

The article indicates a lot more factors than just that.

Comment Re:Good luck getting the protestors to support tha (Score 3, Interesting) 744

The Economist ran an article about China's balance of trade last week which included a breakdown of the value (price) of an iPad. Just over 50% was costs, the rest was profit, of which 30% to Apple (the rest to others in the supply chain). Chinese labour costs were minimal at 2%. They could perhaps reduce their profits to redistribute wealth from their execs/shareholders to the workers.

http://www.economist.com/node/21543174

That is more what I was thinking, instead of adding to the price. If those #Occupy people practiced what they preached, Apple stores would be under siege instead of being mobbed by weeping customers at the loss of Dear Leader.

Comment Re:Good luck getting the protestors to support tha (Score 1) 744

$17 a day? http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20006559&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-37 suggests salary is about $170 per month so more like $5 a day, and how many hours do they work? 100 hours a week would not be unusual for Chinese factory labor. So hourly rate is many times less than US equivalent.

Posted a link on this thread from a NYT article. It quoted an Apple executive for the $17 number and that iPods built paying US wages would only be $68 more.

Comment Re:Wrong answer... (Score 4, Informative) 744

Some recent article about Steve Jobs quoted an Apple executive saying paying US wages in mainland China (instead of $17/day) would only increase the price of an iPad by $70.

And if you were going to pay US wages you could always, I don't know, build the damn thing in America?

I'm not exactly a Buy American nazi, but if the flagship products of greenwashing high-end manufacturers can't be built here, then what can?

Maybe not. The Chinese allow business to setup differently than we do here in America:
See this recent NYT article.

It is hard to estimate how much more it would cost to build iPhones in the United States. However, various academics and manufacturing analysts estimate that because labor is such a small part of technology manufacturing, paying American wages would add up to $65 to each iPhone’s expense. Since Apple’s profits are often hundreds of dollars per phone, building domestically, in theory, would still give the company a healthy reward.

Comment Re:They all do it. why just apple? (Score 1) 744

This

It is hard to estimate how much more it would cost to build iPhones in the United States. However, various academics and manufacturing analysts estimate that because labor is such a small part of technology manufacturing, paying American wages would add up to $65 to each iPhone’s expense. Since Apple’s profits are often hundreds of dollars per phone, building domestically, in theory, would still give the company a healthy reward.

Comment Re:Good luck getting the protestors to support tha (Score 4, Informative) 744

If the sheer number of Apple devices at any given Occupy protest are any indication, it would seem the professional protestors who usually lead this kind of thing are going to bend over backwards to give Apple a free pass on just about anything. Christ, there were Occupy protestors CRYING the day Steve Jobs died--even as they rallied against our corporate overlords (with no sense of the irony at all). So unless you can sell them on the idea that Tim Cook has somehow corrupted their beloved Apple in the last few months, I would say your chances are pretty much nil.

And this isn't meant as flamebait. Seriously, go to an Occupy protest sometime and just look at the sheer number of Mac's, iPhones, and iPads you'll see. It's fucking creepy. They've been for shit at organizing on any other point, but they've apparently almost all agreed on at least *one* thing.

I am surprised that the Apple community does not go after Apple about wages like other did about the Nike plants outside the USA. Some recent article about Steve Jobs quoted an Apple executive saying paying US wages in mainland China (instead of $17/day) would only increase the price of an iPad by $70.

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Journal Journal: Why do the lefties have to be so rude? 3

Just take a look at the comments here. Not a single soul who will even use their registered handle, many of them just rude. Some of them under the delusion that Mercedes could dictate to Hitler too. Where does this notion come from that companies can dictate to police states anyway? It is obviously the other way around.

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