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Comment Re: Because...it's the LAW! (Score 1) 423

"Gun rights" and "gun controls" are not mutually incompatible. For example, mandatory mental health checks for licensees seems emininently sensible as a control, and yet there are people who cry "freedom" and "rights" even when people try to establish checks of that sort. Do you really value the "freedom" of potentially homocidal individuals that much?

Comment Re:Because...it's the LAW! (Score -1, Flamebait) 423

They're working for the extremely high number of Americans who want stricter gun controls that they're finding impossible to implement due to the vocal outrage of the Nutter Rambos of America, and they figure that even if they can't manage to close down the existing paths to firearms ownership, they should at least try to prevent opening up new ones.

Comment Re:Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score 1) 293

You are blaming people for espousing science

I'm not blaming anyone for "espousing" anything -- I'm blaming them for telling religious people "this isn't for you", or even worse -- stating (unscientifically) that science disproves God. I went to a Catholic school. We studied just as much science as the kids in non-denominational schools, because nothing in Catholic dogma says science is bad -- in fact, university study in Europe was founded by the Catholic church to study "the mechanics of God's creation", and science was seen as a holy endeavour, similar to how the medieval Muslim scholars viewed it.

In the last 20 years, things have changed drastically. I no longer mix with as many catholics as I did when I was a believer, but it's clear that far more of them reject parts of science and believe in literal interpretations of the Bible, even though catholic dogma has not accepted biblical literalism for centuries. The influence comes from outside the church. It's also not about being "weak-minded", it's just about being uneducated. Thirty years ago, these people without the educational background to understand science would have just shrugged because science wasn't important to them.

Comment Re:Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score 1) 293

The problem when you separate these people they will only be more extream, as well your side would get more extreme.

I'm not sure that's necessarily true. Do not underestimate the polarising effects of listening to people attack you. I try t be neutral and reasonable on debates on religion. This leads non-religious people to think I'm a religious person trying to corrupt hem, and it leads religious people to believe I'm an atheist trying to corrupt them. The internet isn't currently a place for reasoned debate as people are just too quick t assume any disgreement is an attack. It is possible (though maybe not likely) that such a site could become a "safe place" for debates. Extremism on either side is usually a result of polarisation, which really affects both sides equally.

Comment Re:Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score 1) 293

And live in separate communities and have separate schools, right?

Oh, how cute. You are trying to imply that evangelicals are like the minorities that were persecuted through history and suffered segregation. Right, those poor Christians. They are so defenseless, so persecuted. How dare other people not let them tell everyone how to live their lives.

Oh, how cute -- you're making patronising statements and assumptions again. It could be that the AC GP is making a comment about integration. After all, isn't it one of the biggest concerns about immigrant communities that they fail to integrate? Perhaps the AC was trying to get the previous poster to think about the fact that segregation is never good for society.

In Scotland, segregation in the school system was sold as a means of protecting the Catholic (ie Irish and Italian immigrant) kids from bullying from the local (low Protestant) kids. In reality, it was a sticking-plaster that maintained a century of sectarianism by skirting around the need to preach tolerance and understanding.

Comment Re: Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score 1) 293

Actually, that passage has been presented as being a doctrine for passive-resistance, bolstering the case that the historical Jesus was a sort of Gandhi figure in a country that was constantly bubbling with armed resistance against the Roman occupation. Turning the other cheek challenged the slapper to strike you the other way, and slapping with the front of the hand recognised you as a person of value, whereas the back of the hand was a dismissive gesture, devaluing you. if someone you're close to (eg your dad) slaps you with the palm, then you turn the other cheek, you're effectively saying "hit me again and you're disowning me", whereas if someone hits you with the back of their hand and you turn the other cheek, you're saying "I'm no less than you. Hit me again and prove it." Walking the extra mile was because Roman laws only permitted a legionnary to impune a subject for a mile at a time, and if you carry the pack for two miles, you might get him in trouble with his centurion. The goal was to make them too scared to demand assistance. There is no passive resistance in making two wedding cakes.

Comment Re:Internet without evangelicals = Win (Score 1) 293

I used to be religious (catholic), and it worries me how much of a tendency there is towards fundaMentalism across the board. But I don't blame religious people for this -- I actually blame outspoken atheists who preach that science and rationality are the enemies of religion. It is them, ironically, who turn uninformed religious people into zealots.

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