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Comment Re:are the debian support forums down? (Score 0) 286

Uninstall Skype Install any one a dozen open source package that do the same thing.

Works on almost any IP network, without any major configuration and allow you to make free calls to many and cheap calls to many networks. Please name that package? I've been looking for years.

https://tox.im/ for private person to person calls voice and video calls.

Any number of SIP packages with a carefully selected SIP provider for direct calls. CSipSimple for instance.
Jezus even Google Hangouts on Android and Iphone provided direct connect and video calls either free or cheaper than skype for calls to POTS.

How can you have been looking for "years" and not found any of these? Just how hard have you been looking AC?

Comment Re:No Carriers (Score 1) 149

I don't disagree that is what they should have done.

But I suppose they have to allow for some sites that don't support ssl/tls.
It seems very ham-handed, and easily detectable.

Still, Golden Frog should have Named and Shamed, instead of protecting the guilty.

I've run into hotels that wouldn't allow smtps or secure imaps connections over their wifi.
I checked out, and filled out the complaint form, and mailed to corporate headquarters. (I was pissed).
I've never stepped foot in that chain since.

Comment Re:No Carriers (Score 2) 149

Seems to me its more of a denial than an attack.

They want you to only connect outgoing SMTPS connections on 465. Golden Frog never even tested that, even after showing in a footnote that this was "possible" (their wording, I suspect they didn't want to admit it is the preferred way). Tempest Teapot.

Comment Re:No Carriers (Score 1) 149

This is a case of the client side trying to connect on port 25 then switch to SSL.

On the foot note of Page 8, they acknowledge that the proper way, and the way most modern clients do this, is to connect
to on port 465 with SMTPS, rather than on port 25, and then switch.

Golden Frog presented no evidence that they tried this same provider with a properly configured mail client.
So while it sounds all nasty, it may just be the carrier enforcing a better security method than connecting insecurely
and then changing mid-stream. Saves a lot of unnecessary double negotiations.

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