No, the Internet is a place tied together by DNS on the TCPIP (and other protocols).

The network != Internet.

I have defined it consistently and several times. The Cloud is a collection of technologies for automated provisioning, portability between private, public and hybrid highly available clusters of both software and hardware. Did you know you can install what amounts to a 'cloud' on a single machine?

I also didn't call him an idiot, I said his oversimplification was idiotic (lazy and stupid) and the source of his confusion/apprehension.

The cloud is highly shared and redundant clustering that is automated and agnostic. It can be public or private.

It is not any one hypervisor. It is the automation of one or all hypervisors, and clustering of the technologies it hosts. It is automated provisioning and portability between private and public areas.

It is *not* just an ESX server.

No.

Actual KW saved by not running directly on metal, and squeezing every possible resource out of a highly efficient and redundant server.

It means asset depreciation is much lower, so server churn is much lower (less carbon, less waste less garbage), every watt is consumed rather than dissipated as heat. Every Watt that is consumed rather than dissipated is another watt of cooling that is not needed. It means common parts for all servers which leads to less manufacturing waste. The commoditization of CPU cycles instead of x86, P or IA hardware.

Seriously, please refrain from commenting on things you know nothing about, or can't even be bothered to take to its logical conclusion.

>All it is, is virtualized servers and services - absolutely NOTHING new here.

Absolutely wrong. It is Automated, Agnostic virtualization and services.

+1 for AC #47122881

Maybe your application is not a target for the cloud (or not as mission critical as you think it is)... or perhaps both.

No. Again, it is this completely idiotic and narrow interpretation of the cloud that is precluding you from understanding its advantages.

NEWS FLASH RUSS, The Cloud is not the Internet. There are clouds on the internet. Last mile's gonna always lag, but I'm still trying to figure out what you exact beef here is.

there were a protein and amino acid (and enough time) for this to work!

As someone who has spent the last decade virtualizing anything with a power supply that wasn't critical, you would be astounded as to the savings from yes, *gasp* running apps in the 'cloud'.

It just doesn't mean what YOU think it means.

The cloud isn't just a hosted application that moves seamlessly around a cluster. It can be a head on a cluster, that hosts an application and save thousands of KW a year and you the end user wouldn't know the difference. It's a direct analog to the idea of ditching DVDs. Move the application where the backing resources can be shared, and managed remotely and you will save carbon.

Canada voting stops at 9pm in the last timezone. Zones span 4 hours. So the last vote is presumably cast at 1am Atlantic time.

Results are usually reported the next morning so it really isn't that bad.

Does Germany have 5 timezones?

TIL

Slashdot if you read one post in this thread, please let it be this parent.