Comment Re:yet if we did it (Score 1) 463
Huh? I think you have it backwards.
As you said, "The problem [is] cops under investigation never being punished regardless of the severity of their actions". Unlike you, I don't advocate punishing those under investigation... just those found guilty.
You simply misinterpreted my comment.
I wasn't advocating punishing people under investigation.
I was pointing out that the true problem was cops under investigation are never found guilty and punished. The reason people are complaining about the paid suspensions is they've given up on actual findings of guilt, so they're focusing on increasing the severity of the only consequence the cops experience, the suspension.
Your suggestion punishes the innocent because even though they're still paid they can't use that income because of the shadow of a potential adverse finding.
That's not a real punishment under any sort of legal theory. I can imagine a variety of adverse scenarios and these are not considered "punishments". For example, I can imagine that I were wrongfully convicted and subsequently executed for a crime I didn't commit. Am I being punished right this moment by this threat? It's certainly not beyond the realm of possibility. Do I deserve protection codified in the legal system to somehow preclude my fears?
For another example, I can conceive that the IRS could decide through a miscarriage of justice to have me convicted of tax fraud and thereby seize all my assets and garnish my income. Am I being punished right now, even though I'm innocent? I'm facing the potential prospect of wrongful conviction; according to you I am therefore logically unable to spend a cent of my income. I'm living in the shadow of a potential adverse finding, you know.
As I said, nothing is protecting you from the specter of miscarriage of justice. It's a fact of life, and you and everyone else just has to deal with that however you can because the alternative (accommodating everyone's fears) is absurd.
The IRS thing is possible, but not an imminent threat. An active investigation IS an imminent threat, so it will cause you to severely hedge your bets.
Consider if you were a cop under paid suspension with a hearing hearing in 6 months. You know you're innocent but you figure there's still a 10% chance you'll be found guilty.
How do you think it would affect your spending habits if you knew in 6 months the department would ask for all of that salary back? Personally I'd put that money in the bank and not touch a penny. It would be the same as an unpaid suspension with retro-active pay if I was found innocent.
How is a 6 month delay in salary not a punishment?