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Comment Turing Tests aren't Turing Tests! (Score 1) 136

Anyone holding a Turing Test isn't really holding a true Turing Test. Turing didn't define a duration but it's pretty obvious that five minutes isn't long enough to hold a conversation, it's only long enough to ask a series of questions.

To hold an actual conversation you'd need an hour, maybe more. To last that long the bot would need to learn things about the interrogator just like we learn things when we talk to eachother. A bot that could do that could obviously do a lot more as well.

That's not to say the current Turing Test isn't useful. A successful bot could be applied to customer support systems and give insights into language. But it's misleading to indicate that the current incarnation of the Turing Test is testing what Turing intended.

Comment Re:Please make it a mental one (Score 1) 625

+~5 kg in 2 years of depression speaks of either a lot of luck with your genetics or a hell of a lot of self control. Congratulations.

Well I had a long established routine of using running as my method of commuting. I definitely lost my recreational runs when the depression really hit but I maintained a level of ~6km of daily running just going to school and back.

I think that's brings up an educational/environmental aspect of weight loss that gets underrated. If I had ice cream in my freezer it would be partially eaten. If there were doughnuts in easy reach right now I would be eating one. We choose the path of least resistance so it's prudent to make that path a healthy one.

On my worst days I could barely get out of bed, but once I was out of bed I'd run into campus without thinking because it was just an effort free part of my commute. It would actually have taken more effort to take a bus because I'd be breaking the routine. Similarly with food I kept fairly healthy food around, so despite the fact I'd overeat, I'd only overeat rice or pasta instead of ice cream and cookies.

Comment Re:Please make it a mental one (Score 3, Insightful) 625

Obesity is a mental disability, most often an addiction to a wrong diet containing many addictive ingredients.

The way most people feed themselves is by stuffing enormous amounts of carbs, often a lot of them sugars in their face. Combine those with a little fat and all your body does is store fat and try and balance the glucose content of your blood. The carbs make your gut bacteria generate "happy hormones" that get in your blood, making you hungry and cranky if you don't get your fix, whether your body actually needs food or not.

The symptoms of this addiction are obesity and diabetes type 2. Please treat it as an addiction, not as a phyisical disability. If you do that, for example being taller than 6ft5 should be treated as a disability too and be given all benefits that should come with such a status. If being a size that's outside of what society will cater for is a reason to call people disabled.

Tall people can't help being tall, fat people in over 95% of the cases can help it if they kick the habit. If you treat obesity as a physical disability, you are insulting everyone with a physical disability for which there is no cure.

If it's a mental condition it's one with a strong genetic component.

“Obesity is one of the strongest genetically influenced traits that we have,” says O'Rahilly. Classic twin studies in the 1980s and 1990s, which relied on pairs of identical and fraternal twins, suggest that 40–70% of variation in body size is due to genetic factors.

Mental health can be an issue, I know I put on ~5 kg over two years when dealing with depression, but fat-shaming has always struck me as a failure of theory of mind.

If you're thin it's convenient to assume that it's just a matter of your willpower, you eat healthy because you're disciplined, you eat less because you're responsible. But it's also possible that fatty sugary food is just that much more appealing to other people, that hunger is a much stronger force, that their metabolism is slower so they gain fat much more easily.

I don't dispute for a moment that any of them could lose weight if they tried hard enough. But some people have to try a heck of a lot harder than others.

Comment Re:Old bible scolars (Score 1) 190

For as much contrivocery as there is in the biblical history, only recently some of the evidence supporting it is starting to show up in science. First the discovery of the "Big Bang" and the Genisis creation story. In the beginning there was nothing, and then it exploded or something like that.

The entire earth was covered in a flood, poor Noah. Hmm, now we find the flood drained somewhere. Is the Great Flood of Noah fiction? I have my doubts. Some of the stories are beginning to be supported by recent discoveries. How did they possibly get it right so many years ago?

Maybe there is another explination we will find.

What was in those caverns beforehand? Did God kill the Morlocks after he killed the humans?

Comment The US needs party discipline (Score 1) 932

I continue to believe the madness of the Tea Party is due to the lack of party discipline. Can you imagine the Republican Party running on a unified Tea Party platform?

What's the solution to health care? Vote against Obamacare hundreds of times and then shutdown the government.

What's the solution to illegal immigration? Build a fence then maybe deport everyone?

What to do about global warming? All the scientists are wrong so dig more coal.

The problem with the system is they don't have to deal with reality. Their Obamacare shenanigans are a perfect example. An obvious question to their current approach is "ok, you somehow accomplish a repeal, then what?". But because the party couldn't lock into an alternative plan even if they wanted to, there's no alternative approach to evaluate. As a result they never have to answer the question and can just claim the alternative will fix everything. The AGW denialism is a side effect of this. They're so used to bad populist arguments that an elite opinion from scientists is hard to swallow.

Without party discipline only hyper-partisans bother with the individual arguments and they're the ones who choose the candidates. If you want the parties to reflect voters then you need to enforce strong discipline. When that happens the Democrats and Republicans will need to choose one cohesive platform to market to the country as a whole. Do that and you'll have a platform that's reasonable and well thought out. Keep the current system and they still vote as a block, the block just ends up being run by nuts like the Tea Party and Fox News.

Comment Re:nonsense (Score 1) 398

The first amendment is irrelevant in this case as it's the NBA's rules he violated. You can argue it violates free speech on broader grounds but that's not synonymous with the first amendment.

I agree that the punishment exceeds the crime, but I also think there wasn't a lot of choice. You can't have someone who holds and repeatedly espouses racist views own a basketball team comprising largely of black people. Before he said anything it could be kept under the rug, but now his view are public everyone knows he's racist and he continues to re-affirm the fact.

For as long as he owned an NBA team there would be a narrative of a racist white owner owning a team of black people. That would definitely hurt the NBA, they didn't have much choice but to force him out.

Rich people get a lot of privileges we don't get, particularly the rich people who own sports teams. The tradeoff is they sometimes need to be more careful about what they say. If he didn't want to be held to account for his racist beliefs he shouldn't have bought an NBA team.

Comment Re:Others exist (Score 2) 490

It's not disinformation it's a PSA.

The clue is at the end of the summary:
"without additional expertise and the right type of ammunition, anyone attempting to fire one would probably maim or even kill themselves."

I.e. you've seen all those cool videos about printing 3D guns? Well here's what happens if you try to make one without really knowing what you're doing.

And the media shouldn't freak out because they're of no use to criminals. Any criminal with the expertise to make one of these would have a much easier time making a much more reliable and effective zip gun or buying a gun on the black market.

Comment Re:But... (Score 1) 490

And, in the decades since England banned guns, violent crime has gotten much worse. Did banning guns lead to increased crime? Can't say because correlation does not prove causation. But definitely we can't say that banning guns made England less violent.

I was curious about this so checked out the homicide rates.

First hit was a pro-gun site with a really damning looking set of graphs. Knowing how easy it is to play with numbers I dug a little deeper.

This site looks a little more unbiased. Long story short the homicide rate had been increasing for decades, after guns were banned the rate continued to increase. Maybe the increase is slowing down but there's too much noise in the data.

Comment Re:Wow that much money? (Score 1) 270

simple, it became more valuable because more people wanted to take it from sterling. in their heads they are sticking it to him by taking his baby, if im him though id just be all like ok, i bought this for 12 million, and sold it for 2 billion.... wheres the punishment?

He's obscenely rich. You have money so you can buy toys, but now he has to sell one of his favourite toys and he can't buy another to replace it, that's punishment. Moreover he's just went from obscenely rich owner of an NBA franchise to obscenely rich person who was so repugnant he had his franchise taken away, that level of condemnation has to sting.

Comment Re:rid of Ballmer (Score 1) 270

at least we in the tech industry can be thankful that the NBA & LA community will now have to put up with Ballmer's antics

what if it was the reverse?

successful athletes, coaches, and celebrities bought up startups with their big spending...

can you imagine a consortium of Oprah, Magic Johnson, and some Goldman/Sach's types buying facebook.com from Zuck & Co when it was still valued in the low millions before they got on their IPO track w/ Theil?

It probably wouldn't work.

Owning a sports franchise is basically a vanity project. Hire a GM to handle the drafts, trades, and contracts, other folks to handle the marketing, then you basically get to be a super fan who has a legit stake in the team. You don't need to evaluate whether your basketball team should open up a hockey team as well, or if you should only start four players to save on costs. You don't even really need to make money because you're a fan and doing it for fun.

Owning a company is something else entirely, mergers, product lines, etc. You can buy stock and own some in a non-decision making capacity, but to have any input you need a lot more business skills than you would for a franchise.

Comment Re:Wow that much money? (Score 3, Interesting) 270

One has to wonder if Donald Sterling would have received this much money for his team without a scandal? It appears to me that he greatly profited from the scandal.

Without the scandal it wouldn't have been sold until after his death.

Almost certainly the scandal would have depressed the price if it changed it at all, I don't see how it made the Clippers more valuable. The longer Sterling held onto the Clippers the more they became associated with racism and the more the brand was damaged. Sterling had to sell quick and that meant the pool of potential buyers were whomever could scrape the cash on short notice. I don't expect it made a big dent in the final price but it probably depressed it a bit.

Comment Re:and just to drive my point home (Score 4, Informative) 298

Just to drive my point home:
in this article titled 'Shrinking Waves May Save Antarctic Sea Ice' we get

" You may like to read:
Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans As Antarctic Ice Melts "

what is it?! How many fingers am I supposed to be seeing here??

Both.

This article is talking about the increased sea ice extent. Basically the amount of the ocean that's covered ice. It affects the albedo a bit, but mostly it's an interesting mystery because you'd expect it to shrink in a warmer climate.

The other article is talking about the decreasing ice volume. The thickness of multiyear ice on both land and sea is shrinking. This is expected given the warming climate, it's also worrying because it causes sea levels to rise.

Comment Re:Summary starts with a foolish assumption (Score 1) 339

I believe that the human brain is well within the scope of what we can understand and eventually replicate.
It is not necessarily complex, it's just that it is a black box with the same building blocks repeated 100 billion times.

Take for example the following rather simple function:
y = x^3 / exp(x)
If all you had was the output graph, and you weren't a crack at maths, then you may find it very hard to replicate the same behavior. That does not mean that your IQ is too low to understand.

That's like saying you understand the Linux kernel if you can understand a simple math equation.

Our brains are more than a random assortment of neurons. Even if you assume it's fully explained by the neuron connections and firing properties it's a ridiculously complex organ.

Comment Re:Summary starts with a foolish assumption (Score 1) 339

>Is machine sentience not only possible, but inevitable? Of course not.

The only thing that would stop it is the fall of civilization. There's no reason to believe that only machines made of meat can think. You didn't think your thoughts were based on fairy-dust, did you?

So you're claiming the only two possible paths for humanity are either the fall of civilization, or inventing everything that it is possible to invent. At some point society will achieve steady state, knowledge will be so extensive that the greatest minds minds will be busy understanding the achievements of previous eras. What if we haven't reached the singularity at this point?

Can you teach a dog relativity? If not, then you accept that some species simply do not have the intellectual capacity to understand some concepts. The fact that we are the smartest species on the planet does not exempt us from that rule. I have no doubt it is possible to create an artificial consciousness, but I don't know the obstacles to this goal. Maybe it would require a species with an average IQ of 300 instead of 100, and even with genetic engineering we could only reach 220. In that case the singularity won't come.

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