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Comment Re:Instagram didn't replace Kodak (Score 2) 674

You, sir, should read the next paragraph in the Wikipedia article you linked to:

A customer may or may not also be a consumer, but the two notions are distinct, even though the terms are commonly confused. A customer purchases goods;

That would be advertisers paying money to Facebook in exchange for your data so they can target ads at you

a consumer uses them.

That would be you clicking Like on that Miley Cyrus video, generating the data (the product) that the advertisers are willing to pay Facebook for.

An ultimate customer may be a consumer as well, but just as equally may have purchased items for someone else to consume.

That would be the advertisers (the customer) providing the revenue Facebook requires to provide the service to you (the consumer).

I already covered this in my previous comment, but maybe I failed to make myself clear. Yes, Facebook users exchange their data for the use of the service, but their data in and of itself is of minimal value to Facebook. Sure, it may give them opportunities to expand their user-base, for example. Especially if you are willing to allow them to harvest the contacts in your email client.

It is the advertisers who value you data, and are willing to exchange money for it. That provides the revenue Facebook needs to keep operating.

You are providing a resource to Facebook in return for the use of their service, which they then refine and sell to their customers. It's no different than the farmer who grows the potatoes that McDonald's turns in to french fries, except the farmer is probably being paid in cash rather than cat videos.

Is the farmer the customer?

Here's a better analogy, and it even has a car in it:

I'm a high school kid and my dad runs a used car lot. I come in after school and on weekends and wash cars on the lot so they will be more appealing to my dad's customers. He doesn't pay me, because I'm his kid and he's a cheapskate, but in exchange for my efforts he occasionally lets me drive one of the cars from the lot.

So I'm giving something that is of limited value on it's own, but increases my dad's ability to generate revenue for his car lot so it can stay in business, and in return receive the use of some of the company's assets.

Now substitute washing cars with clicking Like buttons, and using cars from the lot with using the site, and you begin to get the picture. The fact that I exchanged a bit of labour for the occasional use of a car from the lot does not make me the customer. I'm more like a supplier, or a sub-trade even.

But I'm sure I'm not changing your mind about anything, if you've even bothered to read this far. If you want to think of yourself as Facebook's customer, go right ahead. But your use of their site on its own generates no revenue, and without revenue a company isn't viable. In my book the actor providing the revenue is the customer. They are the ones my business will cater to.

Having someone wash the cars on my lot is great, and might even help my business, but without cash-paying customers my business will fail.

Comment Re:Interesting... (Score 1) 180

Wow, I can understand your frustration.

Users restarting their machines to get around the virus scan is an issue for their supervisor to address. Hammering them with back-to-back scans only increases their frustration and the likelihood that they will continue to look for ways to defeat the process.

Battles between IT and users are common, and we've had to lock down some of the machines at my company to stop bad behavior, but it really sounds like things have progressed to the point where your IT department is simply being obstinate. Yes, it's important that the scans complete, but if your users can not do their jobs for six or seven hours of every week, pretty soon there will be no point in scanning the machines. You'll be out of business.

Comment Re:Interesting... (Score 1) 180

Most people in my office don't even come in on Tuesdays anymore because that's virus scan day. It starts a 1AM and nothing on your machine will work until at least 3PM

If it is actually taking 14 hours to complete a virus scan, I would be looking for other issues with the hardware. Seriously, 14 hours? We use McAfee VirusScan Enterprise where I work, and most full system scans complete within an hour or so. If you weren't exaggerating, your security group must be truly incompetent as that is beyond acceptable.

As a workaround, depending on your office hours you could begin the scans at 6:00 PM instead of 1:00 AM, so they would be finished by 8:00 the following morning. That won't solve the mystery as to why your scans are taking so long, but at least the people in your office could start coming in on Tuesdays again.

Comment Re:Instagram didn't replace Kodak (Score 3, Insightful) 674

Company have multiple types of customers. Hint: Facebook's users ARE customers.

Accepting for the moment that company (sic) have multiple types of customers, the most important "type" would be the one who is paying the bills. And that certainly isn't the user.

Honestly, read a book or something. The idea that the consumers of online services are the product, not the customer, is neither new or particularly controversial. You could argue, and I suppose you are, that the user is paying for the services received by providing personal information in exchange for the service, but that would make them more like a supplier of raw material (their "likes," their social connections etc) that is then processed and re-sold to advertisers who use that information target ads at the users.

The ultimate customer is the purchaser of those ads, regardless of whether you feel you received something of value in exchange for the information you provided.

Just because they aren't buying anything doesn't mean they aren't customers. You have a lot to learn about business

My business provides services to clients on behalf of other businesses. We work hard to ensure that the consumers of those services are happy and never forget how important they are to the viability of our business, but they are not customers, they are clients. Our customers are the businesses who pay us to provide those services to their customers, our clients.

If you can provide examples of businesses that remained viable despite their customers not buying anything, then I will defer to your obviously superior business knowledge.

Submission + - NSA Has Full Access to the iPhone 1

jones_supa writes: Der Spiegel reported on the NSA’s access to smartphones and, in particular, the iPhone back in September. Today, these reports expand to the NSA’s apparent ability to access just about all your iPhone data through a program called DROPOUTJEEP, according to security researcher Jacob Appelbaum. The NSA claims a 100% success rate in installing the malware on iPhones. Functionality includes the ability to remotely push/pull files from the device. SMS retrieval, contact list retrieval, voicemail, geolocation, hot mic, camera capture, cell tower location, etc. Command, control and data exfiltration can occur over SMS messaging or a GPRS data connection. All communications with the implant will be covert and encrypted. It is unknown whether the backdoor was developed in cooperation with Apple, but Appelbaum doubts it. Video of Appelbaum's full speech is included in the article.

Submission + - Init wars: Debian inclining towards upstart as default (itwire.com) 1

An anonymous reader writes: More than a month and a half after Debian leader Lucas Nussbaum asked the technical committee to decide on the init system to be used in the next release, Jessie, the discussion is still ongoing. But some committee members have taken positions and at this stage it looks like upstart will end up being the default.

Submission + - The Year We Broke the Internet 1

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes: Reporter Luke O'Neil writes that 2013 was journalism's year of bungles: the New Jersey waitress who received a homophobic comment on the receipt from a party she had served; Samsung paying Apple $1 billion in nickels; former NSA chief Michael Hayden’s assassination; #CutForBieber; Nelson Mandela’s death pic; that eagle snatching a child off the ground on YouTube; Jimmy Kimmel’s “twerk fail” video; and Sarah Palin taking a job with Al-Jazeera America (an obviously satirical story that even suckered in The Washington Post). All these stories had one thing in common: They seemed too tidily packaged, too neat, “too good to check,” as they used to say, to actually be true. "Any number of reporters or editors at any of the hundreds of sites that posted these Platonic ideals of shareability could’ve told you that they smelled, but in the ongoing decimation of the publishing industry, fact-checking has been outsourced to the readers," writes O'Neil. "This is not a glitch in the system. It is the system. Readers are gullible, the media is feckless, garbage is circulated around, and everyone goes to bed happy and fed." O'Neil says that the stories he's written this year that took the least amount of time and effort usually did the most traffic while his more in-depth, reported pieces didn’t stand a chance against riffs on things predestined to go viral. That’s the secret that Upworthy, BuzzFeed, MailOnline, Viral Nova, and their dozens of knockoffs have figured out: You don’t need to write anymore—just write a good headline and point. "As Big Viral gets bigger, traditional media organizations are scrambling to keep pace, concludes O'Neil. "We the media have betrayed your trust, and the general public has taken our self-sanctioned lowering of standards as tacit permission to lower their own."

Submission + - How Ya Gonna Get 'Em Down on the UNIX Farm? 2

theodp writes: In 1919, Nora Bayes sang, "How ya gonna keep 'em down on the farm after they've seen Paree?" In 2013, discussing User Culture Versus Programmer Culture, CS Prof Philip Guo poses a similar question, "How ya gonna get 'em down on UNIX after they've seen Spotify?" Convincing students from user culture to toss aside decades of advances in graphical user interfaces for a UNIX command line is a tough sell, Guo notes, and one that's made even more difficult when the instructors feel the advantages are self-evident. "Just waving their arms and shouting 'because, because UNIX!!!' isn't going to cut it," he advises. Guo's tips for success? "You need to gently introduce students to why these tools will eventually make them more productive in the long run," Guo suggests, "even though there is a steep learning curve at the outset. Start slow, be supportive along the way, and don't disparage the GUI-based tools that they are accustomed to using, no matter how limited you think those tools are. Bridge the two cultures."

Submission + - Document Management system for home use? 3

mrkimile writes: I'm looking for a Document Management system that would help me reduce the amount of papers I need to have lying around.
The general idea would be to have all the incoming papers scanned and 'stored' into the DMS — with references to the filing cabinets/folders in my 'storage' area. I'd like to use it for most of the stuff I keep receiving at my household — for instance, all the government/IRS related stuff. Then, all the work orders from car repair shop(s), house appliance maintenance lads (for instance: I had a refrigerator fixed, under warranty, and currently I have the receipts stored in a 'Refrigirator' folder in my folder-cabinet, along with the warranty cards and all of it), etc. etc.
Also, now that I have a newborn coming along I'd like to keep all his papers in the DMS (the birth certificate, vaccination stuff, all the medical papers that I'll be receiving from various specialists), etc, etc. (I do live in Croatia and we still receive TONS of papers from various government offices/departments).

I've checked several of them, but those are either too complicated, or seem like an overkill (Alfresco), or don't have the necessary functionality (openKM — no way to add additional metadata, and then link documents via that metadata, etc, etc).

I'd prefer to use opensource web based Linux running system (so that both my wife and myself have easy access to the stuff), but i'm fine with desktop-based solution (either Linux or Windows). Also, I'd like it to be self-hosted, I kind-of don't want to share my documents with cloud-based services.

Comment Re:in other news (Score 2) 698

NSA wrote the malware and implicated China

That was my thought. The only countries who have attempted something on the scale of what the NSA is alleging are (allegedely) the United States and Isreal, who (allegedely) unleashed Stuxnet on the world.

And I agree with the poster above - why would China wish to cripple the economy of one of the largest customers of its goods.

This isn't passing the smell test.

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