Then they screwed up already by signing the agreement. I don't think it's realistic to have this kind of stuff happening in your family and then not telling you teenage kid the end result. I mean, after a year of mom and dad being nervous and stressed about the thing you will - not say a word to your kid? WTF kind of parenting is that? So they should not have taken an agreement that had that kind of a clause in the first place.

Is there anything stopping people from downloading Amazon app store and installing it themselves?

Play store is not available as a download from Google (you can get it though), but Amazon is. So this phone should have that and many other third party android app stores.

I just opened the terminal, typed ssh, hit return and got the ssh synopsis. So, ssh client is installed with the terminal by selecting developer mode in the settings.

More importantly for me the phone has a ssh server that's a really nice way to move stuff to and from it.

It's company of about 100 people. They said already last year that they only need to sell hundreds of thousands of phones to make it a feasible business. They don't need to replace anyone.

And besides, I've been using the Jolla phone for three months now and I love it! So clearly, for me and the other customers, they make a difference.

When you use the word climbing, do you mean getting in to management or somehow getting more difficult techical stuff?

Well, the point is that you fill an application and get the permit to raise funds. All kinds of non-profit organizations get them all the time. If wikipedia had done that the Finnish police would be quite happy. The problem is that Wikimedia is registered in California and they obviously do not care about Finnish law and I have no idea of how the police think they can force a US organization to comply with the rules if all the servers and staff are outside Finland.

The issue with the kickstarted texkbook was different because it was not a non-profit organisation. In Finland you need to crowdsourcing very carefully so that it is clear that you are selling a product and not raising money. Jolla did it with their phone so it can be done, but just using kickstarter as it is is illegal, because it is too much like charity for funding a regular company.

It doesn't matter if people in the US feel less safe now. I, as a non-USian, feel a lot more empowered and at peace with the world now. I definately believe that his actions did help world peace overall even if they did hurt US interests. Hypocrisy was running too rampant and it is a good thing that it was slapped down a bit.

So? The Nexus 5 has nothing to do with what made n900 great. Jolla has a pretty similar OS, community and development environment. Neither phone has a hardware keyboard. Either you are willing to pay for the better OS or you are not... I agree that Android hardware is the most cost effective hardware on the planet.

(Part of the Jolla price is 24% sales tax to Finland - it would be nice if they had a separate export price for people outside EU without the tax. Hopefully soon.)

I got one from preordering and I really like it a lot. If the thing you like in n900 is the community and the hackability, you will like Jolla too. Most importantly, I'm able to use it as my work phone already, so it's not just a plaything. So far there has been a steady stream of updates and apps. If you are in US, getting one is probably not very easy, but maybe you can get one from ebay or something? (Check the frequencies etc. first.)

http://jolla.com/

I got one from preordering and I really like it a lot. Most importantly, I'm able to use it as my work phone already now and so far there has been a steady stream of updates and apps. If you are in US, getting one is probably not very easy, but maybe you can get one from ebay?

No. It was a shame on all European countries that when he was still at the airport we were declining planes from flying over our countries. All because of a remote chance that Snowden was sneaking to South America. We would not have given him acylum. Sad indeed.