"They" being about ten scientists (far less than the thousands suggesting climate change today), and "calling for" being "suggested it but said it was too soon to do anything about it."

Your comparison is rather meaningless.

Climate engineering encompass a lot of options. There are definitely options that could have bad effects, but there are some that should be safe. I've heard it refer to carbon sequestration and iron fertilization. We know how much carbon we're pumping out, we know that the climate we have gotten used to is not the climate we're moving to. We can reasonably assume that soaking up the carbon we've added will not change things.

Unfortunately, that's probably the most expensive option, I expect that when rising temperatures become an issue for China and/or the US, we'll go with a cheap fix like put sun blocking aerosols up that will reduce the heat and also sunlight to developing countries, that will cause the effects you're talking about.

I hate both of those groups for the troubles they're causing, but lets not in any way shape or form imply that willful ignorance is exclusive to those groups. It's a human trait. This is not just to be PC either: punctuated equilibrium suggests that real change only happens with speciation events and extinctions. There's variation within species, but it's generally just noise that never amounts to much. It's not some individuals within a species are stronger, faster, or smarter than others, it's that some species as a whole give rise to something better, and then they die out.

Taken as a philosophy, we're more like those people we look down on. Lets not imagine for a moment that we're more highly evolved than them.

You mean trolls. Real anti-vaxers aren't engaging in debate on or offline anymore than real 9/11 truthers, birthers, racists or homophobes are. Antivaxers write off the internet as in on the conspiracy after they get slapped down once. It feeds into their narrative and manages to convince them more that they're right and being persecuted. They continue to spread their gospel to people who haven't already made up their mind on the subject. To their credit, we're not exactly open-minded about it, talking about it here would be a waste of time for them. Against their credit, there's reason for that.

Because the other ones have been dealt with in the appropriate manner, yet the problem remains.

It's because the media reports it. They report it as "Hey, you like celebrities! Here's a celebrity saying stuff!" And people watching are unable to separate that from actual information.

It's part of a much bigger problem. People are unable to separate press statements from reality as well. That's probably the bigger issue.

The media needs to do some regulating in order for things like this to stop happening. What's really frustrating is they DO decide what is news and what isn't, they'll ignore real stories, they ignore voices in politics that aren't framed in the way they want it to be framed. So for them to act like they're not responsible as they report the news, not make it, is absurd. They could ignore McCarthy and other antivaxers. They don't because it's easier to report shit like that than do actual journalism.

A bit off-topic, but I'm pretty sure that if Darwin were alive today, he'd be very frustrated at his name being applied to social situations like this. For one thing, I expect he would have been convinced by Eldredge and Gould and would say till he was blue in the face "that is not how evolution works." For another, he'd likely point out that ignorance is not inherited, and thus this is not selection on any level.

Fair point, but I'd suggest focusing on google glass diverts attention from the other two.

What IS going to be effective? I'd argue that nothing done in relation to google glass, getting upset about it or being cool with it, will revive privacy.

How many product launches exactly inspired "much rejoicing?" When the iphone was launched, most of us were like "Huh? No keyboard?!?" Same with the tablet. The ipod of course launched with a dismissal from slashdot.

How about we not call this one before it's even tossed. And how about we quit acting like this is the end of privacy and not CCTVs or the NSA.

Oh, you mean like the constitution free zones which are at the border and cover the majority of americans? And that was recently upheld in court? I'm sure that will never get abused by the government.

You probably shouldn't trust me with a badge, a gun, and a drone-mounted pepper spray.

And I probably shouldn't trust you to get my point. My point, joking about his handle aside, was that "turnaround would be fair play" is not true when talking about law enforcement, which seemed to be what msauve was suggesting.

Dunno, but I think law enforcement should ideally be held to a higher standard than someone running around calling themselves the Japanese word for breaded pork tenderloin.

Particularly in Antartica, which is ironic given how indistinguishable penguin genders are. Motherfuckers HATE it when they get it wrong, because it happens all the time. They'll waddle you to death if you're a guy wearing a skirt.

It's a self fulfilling malignment: they were maligned in the summary. QED!

In seriousness, google glass is taking a lot of flak in terms of "I can't believe you're recording me! Privacy!" Annoyingly, this outrage is not directed at privacy issues that matter, like companies requiring your SSN for anything besides giving you social security benefits, or CCTVs everywhere, or the NSA. Google glass is maligned by people who want to act like they care about privacy but who can't be bothered to think about it much.