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Comment Re:Of course... (Score 1) 669

Being logical is foundational to religion. Axiomatically, logic governs our existence, if the same logic did not also govern the existence of any fantastic god-like being then there would be no basis for that being to relate to us. For example, if there were separate god logic and human logic and god says "I promise you XXX" then the promise means nothing if there is some hidden mechanism by which a promise might not be binding on god.

Comment Re:So What? (Score 1) 669

I was challenged to read the bible and as I had kind of wanted to do it for a while and had never got around to it I did. The challenger had, it turned out, only intended that I read the new testament, but to be honest I found the old testament to be a much better read. For a start, how often does one read a book from an iron age perspective - it was fun just to see things through their eyes, see what mattered to them. It was also interesting to see how the religion grew and solidified the Israeli power base. I also enjoyed seeing bits of 17th century english (I read the KJ version) that had survived to present day in different forms that I have used without thinking about the meaning too much

My reading only solidified my opinion that it was all made up to secure political advantage and power, as a piece of manipulative politics it was pretty well constructed, YMMV

I have started reading the Koran, but I did not get very far - I should find a better translation, the one I have is hard to follow and there don't seem to be as many internet resources to help understand what's being said as there were for the bible (at least, not as good as biblehub.com which I found really helpful), but my initial impression is that it's very similar to the old testament

I also started to read the book of mormon, but it was so obviously artless crap that I gave up

Comment Re:Only YEC denies it (Score 1) 669

The theology is only interesting as an example of how contorted the reasoning can get when you start with "we want to believe X" even when contradictions crop up like "if god's omnipotent then how can anyone be held accountable for malice ?". I'll say one thing for the theologians - they are creative.

Comment Re:Tip of the iceberg (Score 1) 669

when it says... "like one of us" ... then presumably the "one true god" still had compatriots at that time, it was before he threw the rest of them out in the 82nd psalm. Aside from the devil (clearly another god) and the archangels (clearly gods too) how many of these other gods are there supposed to have been and where are they now ?

Comment Police should embrace this (Score 1) 215

What a great way to make it look like they are out patrolling an area when they are not. Use simulated signals to herd criminals to a small area and then arrest the lot of them. Convince the perp he is surrounded by officers when in reality there's just a couple of cops. Of course, to make best use of it the authorities must complain about it loudly, thereby publicizing it and making it more desirable to criminals.

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