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The (im)Mobility of Web 2.0 Apps 106

narramissic writes "So many Web 2.0 apps seem like a natural fit for use on mobile phones -- more so, in fact, than the PCs they were written for. Take for example, Google maps or Flickr or any of the myriad social networking sites. Frankly, I wonder why anyone would even want to use them while sitting at a desk. And yet the reality of using those apps on cell phones is solidly disappointing because of the inherent constraints of mobile phones and networks. This article gets deeper into the ups and downs of reworking Web 2.0 apps for use on mobile phones."
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The (im)Mobility of Web 2.0 Apps

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  • by Rachel Lucid ( 964267 ) on Wednesday October 18, 2006 @04:25PM (#16491629) Homepage Journal
    Phones, Blackberries, PDAs, and even (my personal favorite) the Nintendo DS are all restricted by a small number of buttons and tiny screen real estate. Ergo, they often need overhauls of their entire front end to accomodate touch-screens, keypads, and voice commands, AND on top of all that they need their networking kicked around a little as well to account for the possiblity of sucky/no service.

    The more that laptops and wi-fi become ubiquitous, the less that people will care about using other devices for more than what they WANT to use them for. Yes, having Google Earth and an audio version of Wikipedia would rock. But I don't see it happening.
  • Browser not needed? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by OakDragon ( 885217 ) on Wednesday October 18, 2006 @04:31PM (#16491723) Journal

    From TFA:

    One way that Web 2.0 companies can similarly adjust their services for mobile devices is by relying less on browser-based applications and more on small software clients that users can download onto their phones. "The browser will fade into the background," said Wood.

    Browsers on the desktop have evolved along the lines of "do everything" applications, which is why the AJAX/Web 2.0 stuff kind of works in them. Lets face it, if you writing an application from scratch to do match the functionality of Google maps, say, you wouldn't start with a browser. Google maps is impressive because it actually works in a browser!

    For Web 2.0 sites, 'lite' custom apps may be just the answer.

  • by justinbach ( 1002761 ) on Wednesday October 18, 2006 @04:34PM (#16491785) Homepage
    It seems to me that the reason that a lot of these apps haven't made their way on to portable platforms (aside from the technical restraints) is simply because many of these services (myspace, facebook, etc) provide a way of mirroring one's real-world friends, acquaintances, &c on the internet and having even more ways of interacting with them. If I'm in the sort of situation where I'm likely to have access to a mobile platform (and not to a computer) odds are that I'm actually hanging out with those friends and acquaintances, and therefore don't need the added layers of communication and community that these sites provide...more than likely, a cellphone with text messaging will be more than sufficient for any "virtual" interactions while I'm in real-world space.

    Of course, we're also now reaching a point where these technologies are creating social networks that didn't exist before the technology. I was in college (Zuckerberg's year, actually) when facebook made its debut, and I used it very occasionally as a way to check on my real-world friends' birthdays, cell #s, and so forth. My sister is a freshman now and facebook is an enormous part of "the college experience"; she's "friends" with tons of people she's never even met. This sort of surrogate "virtual" social life can be a lot of fun as a procrastination activity when you're stuck in a computer lab, at the office, or in any sort of setting where you have a computer and should be doing something else, but chances are that if you're running around with a cellphone and nothing else, you've got better things to do with your time anyway.
  • Never mind 2.0... (Score:5, Interesting)

    by dghcasp ( 459766 ) on Wednesday October 18, 2006 @05:25PM (#16492477)

    Never mind Web 2.0 apps on my mobile, I'm still waiting for Web 1.0 pages to work half decent.

    For better or worse, the Web seems to have settled on a header plus the two or three column layout. On a mobile, unless the site has been optimized (which very few are) you have to scroll down through the header (where every link usually ends up being a seperate line) then through everything on the left and right before you get to the content.

    Actually, in the spirit of "picture worth 1000 words," let me SHOW you what the slashdot home page looks like on my BlackBerry 8700;

    the first new article is in bold below -- See how far you have to scroll to see it?

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  • by Firehed ( 942385 ) on Wednesday October 18, 2006 @05:25PM (#16492481) Homepage
    If you want the largest audience possible, you write for a browser. Not because there are so many people on the internet, but because browser-based apps and AJAX are cross-platform. Sure, Mac and Linux make up under ten percent or so of the computer market share, but they also tend to be MUCH more computer-literate, and are a hell of a lot more likely to be early adopters of stuff like this. Recoding my app for three different OSes would be enough of a pain in the ass - I don't even want to consider trying to compile for a hundred different phones.

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