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Dealing with Posture Problems? 125

WebfishUK asks: "Musculo-skeletal problems (such as back pain) affect most computer users sooner or later. Like others I spend many hours sat in front of a computer and wonder what the long-term health implications will be. I recently came across a website for an application called Posture Minder which apparently runs in the background and uses your web-cam to monitor how you are sitting and warn you about bad posture habits. It sounds like a neat idea (prevention being the best cure and all that), although the website doesn't have a download. Do Slashdot readers have other devices or any habits that they have adopted to mitigate the health risks of spending a lot of time in front of a computer?"
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  • sit forward (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Speare ( 84249 ) on Saturday September 16, 2006 @06:42PM (#16121940) Homepage Journal

    If I have been feeling back pain, I simply shift to sit on the front half of my chair. It forces me to sit more upright and lesss slouchy. It forces me to stop kicking my feet out at random angles and support some of my weight. It forces me to type with better arm positioning.

    (I type this while sitting nearly on my back, knees up, with kid in my lap... so take my advice with a grain of salt.)/p)

  • by Knuckles ( 8964 ) <knuckles@dantiEULERan.org minus math_god> on Saturday September 16, 2006 @07:45PM (#16122154)
    Get a good bed and matress.
    Practice Tai Chi in a good school that treats it as a martial art, not gymnastics, such as the ITCCA [itcca.org]. (It's a good idea to research the lineage of the teacher before committing.)
  • Dawg! (Score:5, Interesting)

    by beadfulthings ( 975812 ) on Saturday September 16, 2006 @08:02PM (#16122224) Journal
    I work at home, where I spend about half my time hunched over a computer, the rest at a workbench hunched over a sketch pad or over little tiny parts which I'm assembling. Both are bad for posture. The second best investment I made was in a decent adjustable chair for my worktable. I'd always had one at the computer, but for the other work I sat in a kitchen or dining room chair, or a folding chair. No more. That helped a lot with back and shoulder problems.

    The very best investment was in an eight-year-old beagle, a recycled and rescued hunting dog. He absolutely requires a long walk and some activity each day. Aside from that, he needs to be let out from time to time, and he has no shyness at all about letting me know--forcing me to get my butt out of the chair to let him out into the yard.

    If you can't take your dog along to your workplace (and I never could), you can at least make time for a long walk and a few Frisbee or tennis ball tosses before or after work. You may find that the dog is actually better behaved and more obedient after a walk, and for you it will pay off in terms of relaxation, un-kinking of abused muscle groups, and possibly even better sleep.

    I could do all of this without a Beagle, but somehow I could never be bothered. Having the dog turns it into an obligation.
  • For Stiff White Guys (Score:5, Interesting)

    by value_added ( 719364 ) on Saturday September 16, 2006 @08:35PM (#16122313)
    Here's a funny story.

    I've had bad/lazy posture for most of my life. I'm tall, so slouching is something I'm good at. In addition, I sustained a minor injury in my teen years that aggravated the state of affairs and as a result, most all of my adult life included intermittent back pain (pinched sciatic nerve) along with the usual visits to doctors, chiropracters, massage "therapists" and nights of sleeping on a bare floor. The doctors offered addictive drugs; the chiropracters offered instant relief, weird bone cracking noises, and a dent in my pocket book; the massage therapists mostly just made me feel sore.

    A few years back, my sister decided I should attend a Yoga class with her. I thought, "What the hell - why not?" and agreed. She picked me up in her car late one afternoon from a cafe where I'd sat drinking espresso and smoking cigarettes for a few hours with some friends. New sweats and T-shirts were in a bag waiting for me.

    We get to the "studio" and walk through the building past various workout rooms where people are using free weights, performing aerobics and you name it, and walk up a circular staircase to a glass-walled room on the top floor. As we turn the corner, I look into the room and see twenty or so people in an identical pose but notice an amazingly attractive woman in her early twenties, at least 8 months pregnant, standing, like everyone else in the room, motionless on one leg with the other leg held vertically straight above her. My second thought was, "I really don't think this is for me." I was expecting a small group of new-age types, but the group was a nice cross-section of what you'd expect in any city. Ordinary guys included.

    To make a long story short, I spent the 60 minutes engaged in one of the best workouts of my life! I can say that because I used to use free weights, run, and box, but for the record, I dislike exercising -- free weights satisfy one's vanity, and while other activities can be fun, I'd rather sit at in front of a computer and smoke cigarettes.) At any rate, the Yoga workout, by comparison, was head to toe. I came out sweating, relaxed as a baby, and my posture was normal, probably for the first time in my life. And it was fun.

    I took a few more classes, and eventually stopped. After each class, the "effects" lingered for some time so, given that I walked, sat, slept and did everything else better than I ever had, and my sciatic problems magically just disappeared, it was easy to slack off and go back to my usual habits knowing that I could bend down and put my hands flat on the floor whereas in the past, I was never able to touch my toes. With one exception. I could practise my Yoga adequately from home with no fuss.

    Yoga, for those unfamilar with it, is, at its essence, just streching. And breathing. Breathing is the most important part. Stretching while holding your breath is an excercise in futility and laughable. Heaving breathing (or heavy exhaling, to be more exact) without stretching *is* relaxing, but won't do much for your body. Combine carefully learned and structured postures and movement with heavy breathing and you get Yoga. It's almost a no-brainer, but the practice dates back further than you want to know, so yes, there is definitely more to it.

    My advice? Skip the expensive furniture. Ergonomic chairs are nice, but the best chairs are also best at making you comfortable while in a ridiculous, cramped, or otherwise unhealthy posture. And horribly expensive. Skip the therapists, too, unless you have a real medical condition. You'll get more satifaction by hiring a hooker. Learn some basic stretches (read Yoga postures) and BREATHE. You can practise Yoga in an hour-long class, at home, or by simply taking a few minutes out of a hectic afternoon and doing some basic stretches. I'll guarantee it.

    Check out your local phonebook for a Yoga class near you. In my area there's one called Stiff White Guys Yoga. Says it all, doesn't it? If nothing else, you'll find lots of very relaxed babes, all willing to help out a novice, and you'll learn some things you can use for the rest of your life.
  • by FractalZone ( 950570 ) on Monday September 18, 2006 @12:41AM (#16127944) Homepage
    Posture Minder? I can't believe anybody would pay for a gimmick that nags them like their mommy (and maybe nuns in grade school if they are Roman Catholic :-) did when they were little kids.

    "Sit up straight!"..."Don't slouch!"..."Keep your elbows off the table!" Who needs that crap?

    Then again, the kind of sick masochistic fitness freaks who buy into the "No pain, no gain." nonsense are notorious for spending big bucks on fancy home gyms, trendy weight loss products, and the health-food/weight-loss plan/diet of the week... I just think of Eule Gibbons, pitchman for Post Grape Nuts, who died of a heart attack after years of promoting his own wacky notion of a healthy diet.

    I don't discount bad posture as being a root cause of many kinds of bone, joint, and muscle pain people experience as they grow older. On the other hand, I know for damn sure that I won't be writing great code if I'm being nagged by a program that doesn't like the way I sit/slouch at the keyboard. I might not be writing great code anyway, but at least I'll be comfortable while getting nothing useful done!

    I came across this relevent .sig when researching this reply:

    Life should not be a journey to the grave with the hope of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather throughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly procaiming ,"WOW WHAT A RIDE[!]"
  • Naps at work: excellent idea - and already implemented at some places in order to improve productivity by as much as 40%.

    http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/printout/0,8816 ,1209960,00.html [time.com]

    Napping has had the hardest time gaining traction, despite the scientific evidence in its favor. A study by NASA found, for example, that a 26-minute nap increased pilots' performance 34%. "What other management strategy will improve people's performance 34% in 26 minutes?" asks Mark Rosekind, president of Alertness Solutions, a fatigue-management consultancy, and the former NASA scientist who conducted the research. Yet most businesses still reject public napping. According to a survey by William Anthony, a Boston University professor of rehabilitation counseling who created National Napping Day, 70% of respondents who sleep at work do so secretly, often curled up in the backseat of their car at lunch.

    You can read more here http://darwin.nap.edu/books/0309101115/html/R1.htm l [nap.edu]. The cost of sleep deprivation to todays' economy is in the hundreds of billions - that's several thousand dollars per year per worker in lost productivity, mistakes, etc.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday September 18, 2006 @07:38AM (#16128907)
    It is great! Really helps flexibility and strength if you get a good teacher. Somehow makes you more relaxed in general too (a lot less stressed about Microsoft vs Linux for example). Just being able to sit there and breathe helps a lot for instance calm when Windows crashes for example. Just remembering to look for the positives in life helps a lot if you're working on something that's not so fun at the time.

    Yoga as a whole is a complete system for life. Like a decent object orientated design there's the really abstract levels at the top, then slightly more concrete stuff leading to the various implementations. A lovely thing is that it's all friendly. You can mix and match, even if practicing any of the more spiritual styles, and it's fine.

    Anyway - some sites I found out about from a yoga event I went to this weekend (and came back from suitably relaxed and feeling generally brighter all round). I also spent some time with a yoga therapist who was great!

        http://www.yoga4fellas.co.uk/ [yoga4fellas.co.uk] - Not maybe for computer geeks, but funny!
        http://www.budokon.com/ [budokon.com] - Yoga for martial artists - quite serious!
        http://druyoga.com/ [druyoga.com] - Saw this demo-ed. Looks amazing! Yoga dance!

    I practice Hatha mostly, Kundalini sometimes, trying all sorts.

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