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ScummVM Developers Barred From Using PayPal
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The moon is made of green cheese. -- John Heywood
Why ?? (Score:5, Interesting)
I'm sure there is something clever (Score:1, Interesting)
I've about had it with PayPal (Score:5, Interesting)
I've about had it with PayPal. They want to have it both ways--they want to be the blameless intermediary who can not be held responsible for what their customers do (in essence, a bank), yet they want to meddle in every transaction, and pass judgment on issues that are none of their business just because they hold the money.
With a credit card company, at least they have the argument that--until you pay them back--it's their money on the line.
Note that no laws are being broken, and so far as I can see no one even complained. This is as bad as a bank deciding that they didn't want to cash valid checks for some people because "we don't like your kind around here."
--MarkusQ
Other stuff that's against the AUP (Score:5, Interesting)
If feeBay wants to be consistent (ha - fat chance), they would have to ban a lot more stuff:
"Game enhancers (which enable the play of import software and/or back up versions of software).'"
They'd have to ban the sale of all new and used laptops, desktops, and game consoles - people use these all the time to play backups.
BTW, "the play of import software" - so imported software is a no-no, but domestic software is okay?
Re:I've about had it with PayPal (Score:5, Interesting)
Sorry, I really don't believe credit card companies don't work that way. They just take the money. The impressions one might get on the "Internet" gives the impression that credit card companies are these angels and PayPal are demons, but the only difference is that CC companies are regulated, otherwise they would be worse than Paypal.
If you are a merchant and there is a dispute, they can and will effectively remove money from your checking account and then they might be nice enough tell you they did it afterwards. It doesn't matter to them if you shipped a big item after you got an authorization, they can revoke the authorization anyway, even if you had the best intentions. This happened to my parents. Thankfully the buyer was honest and said that the transaction was legitimate, so they got their money.
Also, if they authorize a transaction and it turns out to be fraudulent on the part of the buyer where the merchant acts in good faith to verify the card. The credit card companies will still just take the money from the merchant. If you don't have the money, they can just sue you. I had a friend who basically had the CC companies basically sue him out of business because of one large transaction that went bad.
Re:Other stuff that's against the AUP (Score:3, Interesting)
Currently I'm having (completely separate) problems with PayPal too; my credit card has been charged to some Paypal account for a substantial sum, even though I have never used Paypal in my life. The CC company had no problems understanding a simple phone call; they blocked the card and are investigating the records, yet PayPal don't understand this simple story even though I explained it to them twice, with much more detail than I provide here.
As far as I know, they're both the same company and they both don't care about doing honest business at all.
Email to support (Score:2, Interesting)
Thank you for contacting PayPal.
We are sorry you are disappointed.
Sincerely,
PayPal, Acceptable Use Policy Department
PayPal, an eBay Company
Original Message Follows:
http://forums.scummvm.org/viewtopic.php?p=12891 [scummvm.org]
http://games.slashdot.org/games/06/09/04/1227227.
that just sucks, I will never ever use paypal again, unless you take
that back!
Re:Choosing PayPal is a fault (Score:3, Interesting)
I thought PayPal *was* legally a bank.
-b.
Re:Quick (Score:3, Interesting)
Actually, Paypal can take all your cash too [paypalsucks.com]. I was going to use them for my[shameless plug] locals-only dating site [centralkydating.com] but upon seeing how freakin' limiting they are and how quickly/easily they can deem a site to be "adult content" no matter how G-rated it actually is, I went with other options, especially since I was considering branching out into more adult-oriented content eventually. Google wasn't one of them since at the time they hadn't decided to allow dating sites and may not have at this time.
Re:I've about had it with PayPal (Score:3, Interesting)
I became aware of yet another evil little thing about PayPal recently. I used to bank with a local bank, along with having a secondary checking account with Netbank. I finally decided it wasn't doing me any good having 2 checking accounts, and consolidated everything with Netbank. (Unlike my local bank, they pay interest on my free checking, and their online billpay seems to get bills paid faster than my local bank ever did through their online equivalent.) After I did this though, PayPal reverted my user status to "unverified". I was told I needed to verify myself by linking PayPal with a valid checking account again (since it used to be linked to the local bank acct. I cancelled).
I tried to enter my Netbank info, but it was rejected! Upon further investigation, I found out that Netbank is one of only a few banks that refuse to allow PayPal to pull out funds on demand without the permission of the bank account owner first. So it seems PayPal's "verification" procedure is just a thinly veiled scheme to ensure they always have a way to get ahold of money from the user, in case they feel a need to do so. (Notice I can't become "verified" by providing any of my credit card information - even though there's no logical reason that would be any less "proof" that I am who I say I am than giving them a valid checking account. This is because PayPal can't just grab funds from one of your charge cards, or else you could just reverse the charges.)