Apple Reaches 12% Market Share In U.S. Notebooks

bonch writes "Apple's U.S. notebook market share has doubled to 12% after shipping 1.33 million Macs in the quarter. Apple also shipped 8.11 million iPods, topping analyst estimates, for a net income of $472 million. Remember when Apple was dying?" From the article: "The iPod shipments appeared to calm investors worried that growth in that red-hot business was slowing and Apple's results topped what analysts had said was a conservative forecast. Shares of Apple were down some 24 percent since early May. 'Apple looked good,' said Jane Snorek, technology analyst with First American Funds. 'The PC numbers were great, too.'"

Re:Shipped?

[Jeff DeMaagd]

I really don't think it makes sense to suggest that somehow there are possibly several hundred thousand of these (or millions of PSPs) just collecting dust on store shelves. I don't think any retail store would accept it if they didn't think they could sell them in a reasonable period of time, it's too much money tied up and too much to lose if it's still sitting on the shelf when the model gets updated.

Re:Good Products = Success

[stoolpigeon]

My team lead just replaced his ibm laptop with a mac running parallel. It is nice and he said when it comes time for me to replace my dell, I can get one too. And I think with IBM no longer being IBM, it shifts some of the perception of where high-end notebooks are to be found.
 
Each time I walk by his desk and see one monitor with the OSX desktop and another with his win desktop up, I wish for the imminent doom of my dell.
 
Years back this would never have been the case. The only place I ever saw macs before were the graphic design/advertising folks. And they couldn't run the apps we had to run.

Re:Stock

[Anonymous Coward]

Why link to Wikipedia for WWDC and not the actual Worldwide Developers Conference [apple.com] page..

Re:Good news everyone!

[Rude Turnip]

I've got to say that when running Windows XP natively through Boot Camp, my Macbook Pro doesn't get as hot as it does under OS X.

Re:Good

[99BottlesOfBeerInMyF]

I never understood this. What is wrong with bundling software? Here's a hint for you, if windows didn't come with IE or [Other Bundled Browser] people would find it awfuly hard to go dowload the latest version of firefox.

You're mistaken. The law makes it illegal for Microsoft to bundle a browser with their OS. It is not illegal for Dell or Gateway or HP to bundle Windows and IE or Windows and Firefox or Linux and Opera. End users don't have to download anything.

Taking that choice away from Dell and HP and Gateway or in any way using their monopoly to make sure IE is the one they choose over better alternatives is what is illegal.

Budling software is not wrong, evil or bad.

Assuming one of the bundled products is a monopoly, then yes bundling is bad. It bypasses the free market and the advantages it brings. Have you ever noticed that most people use IE, even though it has long been inferior in many obvious ways to Firefox? This is because IE is bundled. Thus most people never have a chance to vote with their dollars for the best browser. Now if each computer manufacturer had to choose on even footing which one to pre-install, what would happen? Some would choose one browser and some a different browser. Say Gateway decided to bill their machines as "more secure than Dell" because they pre-installed Firefox. At this point consumers buy computers and tell others and eventually the market decides which is better for different parts of that market. And here's the important part. Because consumers are making this decision, both the Firefox team and the IE team are motivated to make a better product to compete. Consumers gain choice and innovation.

When a monopoly bundles something with that monopoly, capitalism breaks. All the economic models show consolidation of sales, rising prices, and falling quality. If you have no competition why lower prices or work to improve? For this reason it is illegal.

Re:Good

[TheGreek]

what the hell do you think this has to do with the question that was asked?

As somebody who quite likes Mac OS X, I cringe everytime I read something like, "Internet Explorer can't be removed from Windows, but Safari can be removed from Mac OS X without hurting anything!!! Furthermore, WebKit's better because you can embed it in other applications through a well-defined API!!!"

Some facts:

• Both OSes use their respective rendering engines quite a bit in the core OS.
  
• Just like you can't really remove MSHTML and have a useable Windows (since Windows 98), you cannot remove WebKit and have a useable Mac OS X (since Panther).
  
• MSHTML is a well-documented API that can be used to develop applications.

Re:Good news everyone!

[Firehed]

You know, I thought it was just me that found it running cooler when running Windows in BootCamp. And it's actually not louder, ie continuous fan blasting. But unlike merely running that oh-so-pretty OS X screensaver where I've seen core temps of 85c or more (185f, which IS hot enough to cook with), even gaming in Windows doesn't get it that hot, and while the fan actually spins, it's not blasting and is rarely to the point where I even hear it. And the power brick certainly is hot enough to function as a coffee warmer, as hinted at by the spoof article.

Re:*Retail* Marketshare

[soft_guy]

I doubt that. Apple also sells on the web direct to consumers and businesses. So, excluding those numbers would make no sense.

Re:*Retail* Marketshare

[Anonymous Coward]

"Retail" here probably includes Website sales, but not VARs or Big Business Direct sales.

Basically, if random guy can buy it, it counts as retail. If its a deal you only get when you're buying 50+ systems at a time, that come with a 2 year support contract, etc., then it is no longer retail.

Dell's web sales probably count, but their big business accounts don't.

Re:Stock

[JPRelph]

Why isn't 1GB of RAM on one chip an option? (It is with the MacBook Pros, using the same CPUs!!)

Apple only sell matched memory in the MacBooks because of the integrated graphics. It (apparently) makes a fairly big performance difference. They recommend it for future upgrades as well: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=303 721 [apple.com]

. Obviously that doesn't affect the MacBook Pros.

Used to make good boxen anyway ...

[pmuellr]

Check out the thread "Randomly Turns Off" in the MacBook discussion forum at Apple [apple.com].

Ironically, I bought my MacBook because I was tired of dealing with crappy WinTel hardware, with the most recent problem being ... it randomly turned off. Sigh.