Microsoft COO Warns Google Away From Corp Search 315
Forbes is reporting on comments made by Microsoft COO Kevin Turner, concerning the corporate search business. At a company conference in Boston, Turner referred to the enterprise search business as 'our house', and warned Google to stay out. From the article: "Those people are not going to be allowed to take food off our plate, because that is what they are intending to do ... Enterprise search is our business, it's our house and Google is not going to take that business"
Re:Uh... (Score:5, Informative)
It works for me without any work other than telling it what to search: by turning it on on a Windows 2003 server and telling it to index a drive, a standard Windows search on that drive will use the index... even over the network. And that's all I personally need it for.
Re:business not personal (Score:2, Informative)
Yes. Ooooooooh, not overtly, but it is the defining aspect of Microsoft's corporate culture, directly tracable to the personality of Bill himself; a man who will get mad at you when you beat him at ping pong, because "you embaressed me in front of my friends."
KFG
At last check, (Score:3, Informative)
And in other news, I'm warning Ferrari not to take away the Aston Martin that's in my driveway. It's there. Really. Ok, so no one but me can see it, but I'm warning you, Ferrari, BACK OFF!!!
Use the full quote, wouldya? (Score:5, Informative)
The rest of that quote reads:
"... unless, of course, their product is better than ours. In which case, they will attract new customers, together with customers from our existing customer base. Which... I guess you could call taking our business."
Honest, guv!
Re:Classic late-stage empire behavior (Score:3, Informative)
Here is how to figure out what their margin is:
1, Pick a good stylish-but-not-tacky gamer case (Lian-Li, Antec Sonata) and go with that price, (or an Asus or Shuttle enclosure/board if the Mac Mini for the PC equivalent)
2. Pick a motherboard with same chipset and similar features to the Mac in question's motherboard
3. Pick a video card with same chipset and similar features to the Mac in question video card
4. Pick the same or a similar optical drive
5. Pick a good keyboard and an average mouse
6. Pick the same HDD
7. Processor, Etc. (complete list based on configuration)
Add the parts together, based on Newegg's pricing (they're fairly close to wholesale). Subtract from retail price. Add cost of off-the-shelf OS X. You have what is somewhere in the ballpark of their margin, not taking into account volume discounts and padding for warranty service.
When they were on the PPC platform it was a good deal harder to figure out what their margins are, because their motherboards were 100% proprietary, and just adding up the cost for the Foxconn components really didn't give you the price of the boards. Now they're pretty much commodity parts and it's relatively easy to discern. Of course, you don't know if their volume discount is 1%, 3%, 10%, or 20%, but based on sales figures and what discount, say, Tech Data or Ingram Micro will give based on specified # of units, you can arrive at a fairly good guesstimate of what Apple is paying for components, within a couple of percentage points. Also, Apple deals with volumes large enough to buy directly from Intel, and I'm sure Intel gave them HUGE concessions to move away from IBM/Motorola/PPC for the PR, so it is safe to presume Intel is just about giving away the processors, and charging a slim margin over material costs.
Re:This may come across as flamebait, but ... (Score:3, Informative)
Re:Sharepoint lockout! (Score:3, Informative)
And somebody's done open source Sharepoint integration: http://code.google.com/enterprise/opensource/index .html [google.com]
MS have a long way to go (Score:1, Informative)
Re:Google doesn't stand a chance!!! (Score:2, Informative)
>don't make me fucking laugh.
You're laughing? More like living in denial.
But, hey, who needs facts for that "5" rating, when you just tell most slashdotters what they want to hear?
Re: What is the Microsoft alternative (Score:2, Informative)
Does Microsoft even have a shipping product that does this?
Yes Microsoft offers the "Indexing Service" as of Windows 2000.
About the Windows Indexing Service [wikipedia.org]
At our company we found this to provide amazingly, mind-bogglingly bad search results.
Just last month we ripped the Microsoft solution and replaced it with a Google Mini [google.com], and are in the process of evaluating an upgrade to the Google Onebox [google.com].
We are much happier with the Google system's search results.
(FYI: Even the Mini allows for you to add NTLM (Windows) user-ID's and passwords [google.com] so that it can search Sharepoint sites, and other restricted access content.)