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A 1.2 Petabyte Hard Drive? 431

Angry_Admin writes "Rather than spend millions of dollars for an array of hard drives when you can have all that storage on just one drive? A story at P2P.net US inventor Michael Thomas, owner of Colossal Storage, says he's the first person to solve non-contact optical spintronics which will in turn ultimately result in the creation of 3.5-inch discs with a million times the capacity of any hard drive - 1.2 petabytes of storage, to be exact. According to the article, In the past, data storage has only been able to orient the direction a field of electrons as they move around a molecule, Thomas said. "But now there's a way to rotate or spin the individual electrons that make up, or surround, the molecule," he says. He expects a finished product to be on the market in about four to five years, adding the cost would probably be in the range of $750 each."
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A 1.2 Petabyte Hard Drive?

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  • 1.2 Petabyte equals (Score:5, Interesting)

    by binkzz ( 779594 ) on Friday February 17, 2006 @12:23AM (#14739640) Journal
    1,351,079,888,211,149 bytes

    1/74th of Data's full storage capacity on Star Trek

    1/45th of all the files shared on Kazaa

    1/3rd of Google's total storage capacity

    Half a Vista installation

    938,249,922 Floppy disks

    208 KB of storage for each person on this planet.
  • That's nothing (Score:5, Interesting)

    by climbon321 ( 874929 ) on Friday February 17, 2006 @12:27AM (#14739661)
    If you think a simple hard drive is impressive, check out the bottom of the article where it describes his other project

    Thomas is a 30-year pioneer whose projects include a computer with a 3D display, instant response, able to run every available OS and application simultaneously, virtually no power consumption or moving parts and complete security - and whose physical component is about the size of a pack of playing cards.

    Now that makes a 1.2 Petabyte Hard Drive in 4 years almost believeable!
  • Solidisks (Score:5, Interesting)

    by jd ( 1658 ) <imipak@yahoGINSBERGo.com minus poet> on Friday February 17, 2006 @01:02AM (#14739827) Homepage Journal
    Solid-state "disks" (such as the 1980's "solidisk" system) may be the future, but they're also very much the past too. Genuinely non-volatile solid-state memory date back to the earliest "core" memories, but have taken many forms (eeproms, bubble memory - there are even forms of static RAM that can hold data for significant periods of time with no power).


    I would also question the usefulness of the proposed system. I am not confident you could change the spin of anything at that scale for any useful length of time. Too many variables and too much "noise". If you want to change a property, it needs to be a property that can "latch" in whatever state you place it and have no trivial way of unlatching itself without significant input. Otherwise, your data will degrade very rapidly.


    There are two ways to "store" data - permanently or erasably. Permanent storage is much simpler, in that there need not be any way of reversing the process. It's better to do this in a mechanical form, because you can have a much higher density. Erasable storage is better as solid-state, because erasable mechanical storage will wear out rapidly, which means it's not particularly reliable or trustable over meaningful periods of time.


    Permanent storage that is high density is relatively simple. You could have a mix of two molecules which are highly stable but, when energy is delivered, react to form something different. Since different molecules absorb energy at different wavelengths, the absorption pattern would give you your 1s and 0s. Molecules are extremely small, compared to magnetic fields or even to the "blisters" formed on CDROMs to store data. You can also look at multiple bits at the same time, with this method. Unlike conventional magnetic media, a read-head need not be serially streaming data but could read as much in parallel as you liked. This WOULD be permanent, though, so would only be useful as a means of replacing CDROMs or DVDs, but would be far more expensive per byte of data and would only offer an advantage where you needed such a system to be considerably faster and vastly more durable.


    Erasable non-volatile storage is a tougher problem, as you need something that can be altered by an electric current in both directions and where the change could be read through some alteration in an electric current. This can get to be a problem, if you want extremely high densities of storage, as all the supporting electronics will take space and will likely take space for each and every single bit of data. (Pun intended.) Usually, there is some magnetic component to such systems (magnets are good at holding states) OR a battery backup, as transistors won't hold a state when there is no power to them. There are many ways of building such an arrangement, with different methods having different speeds for read and write and different densities of storage.


    I would assume that one could (ab)use "electron migration" to store information, provided an easy way of resetting the electrons existed. This would have the benefit of not needing any magnetic mechanisms (which may mean you could get higher densities) but it would certainly be slower to write to, and likely to read from. I would suspect that something similar will offer much better opportunities for solid-state non-volatile storage in the future, precisely because it should be capable of far higher densities.

  • Re:Eh? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by iMySti ( 863056 ) on Friday February 17, 2006 @01:23AM (#14739912)
    If I owned some giant company needing hundreds of terabytes of storage, I'd use these as economical backup storage. If you're storing terabytes, you can afford to throw away a few 750 dollar drives.
  • Re:Backups, anybody? (Score:2, Interesting)

    by eonlabs ( 921625 ) on Friday February 17, 2006 @02:08AM (#14740133) Journal
    Well we know technology is getting more and more reliable
    If you look at the 'new' 160-500GB drives, how many have survived their 3 year test runs. I've found that the finer you get, the better storage you have for a shorter time. I'm currently using 'old' 80GB drives because they seem much more stable in the 3 year timescale than the nextgens 10x their size.
    I think google would flip all over the concept of tons of cheap space, even if it costs a few backups in the long run. Archiving the internet anyone?
  • by edashofy ( 265252 ) on Friday February 17, 2006 @02:10AM (#14740142)
    If I recall correctly, in 3001 Arthur C. Clarke asserts that a petabyte is enough to store the information comprising a single human (mind, body, etc.) You could store the art and the artist, as he put it.
  • by abertoll ( 460221 ) on Friday February 17, 2006 @02:25AM (#14740198) Homepage Journal
    Oops, I just noticed this at the end:

    "Thomas is a 30-year pioneer whose projects include a computer with a 3D display, instant response, able to run every available OS and application simultaneously, virtually no power consumption or moving parts and complete security - and whose physical component is about the size of a pack of playing cards."

    I think I was just trolled by this article.
  • by christophe ( 36267 ) on Friday February 17, 2006 @04:36AM (#14740606) Journal
    "Historical data" is of course the limited sample of the hard drives I've bought with typical desktop computers :-) from 200 Mb in 1994 to 300 Gb this year.

    Convert into logarithmic scale, make a linear regression, and you see that a 1.2 Pb drive is only slightly above the curve, hence believable if you suppose that progress in this industry will continue at the same rate. I have no idea if the technology of the article makes sense though.

    Caveat: Of course, blindly extrapolating current trends into the far future is the best way to make big mistakes...

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