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AIM Bots: Useful or Spam? 517

An anonymous reader writes "Imagine my surprise this morning when AOL AIM popped up a window and introduced me to two bots that it automatically added to my buddy list. " Two seperate issues- one is simply auto adding robots to your friends list, which is very uncool. The second is a corporation using bots in an official capacity. This is an interesting trend, although technically speaking, not that far from the eggdrop of old.
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AIM Bots: Useful or Spam?

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  • by ThatGeek ( 874983 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @12:30PM (#14044440) Homepage
    I see this as the future of advertising. Everyone is now using GAIM or some other alternate client, so people miss all of AOL's annoying (yet profit-generating) ads.

    AOL had to think of something new -- some way of profiting off of their protocol. Sticking interactive ads, that people think of as their "buddies"! What could be better?

    These bots sneak in to your list, pretend to be your friends, and if you send them a message, BAM! Custom ads delivered right to you.
  • by NardofDoom ( 821951 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @12:32PM (#14044482)
    My friend was in a chat room, late one night. He was the only real person in the room, but there were 50 screennames on the list. They were all bots, all trying to get the other bots to click their links.

    Now imagine if you programmed even a rudimentary adaptable AI into an AIM bot, and had it talk to other AIM bots with a similar AI. You'd have them talking to each other, learning from each other. Then imagine if they had web crawlers attached to them, learning about the Internet, communicating their findings back to each other.

    The only way we'd know if the Internet became sentient is if it stepped up and said 'hi.'

  • At IBM we use Lotus SameTime internally as our IM infrastructure. Several enterprising folks have written various sametime bots that allow us to look up acronyms (WhatIs Bot), look up employee info from our directory (BluePages Bot), and others I can't think off off the top of my head.
  • Re:Time to... (Score:2, Interesting)

    by generic-man ( 33649 ) * on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @12:35PM (#14044512) Homepage Journal
    No thanks. I don't like using Jabber servers which shut themselves off from other Jabber servers [google.com] and are still in "beta." (How hard is it to set up a Jabber server that you declare it as "beta" for months?)
  • by Billosaur ( 927319 ) * <<wgrother> <at> <optonline.net>> on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @12:38PM (#14044551) Journal

    Apparently once you've installed someone's software or used someone's product on your computer, they have the right to tinker with your machine and settings at will.

    I was more than a little distressed to find these things appearing on my Buddy List. Like any "feature", don't I get the right to refuse it? Of course the cute little system message tells me I can right-click and delete them, but that's not the point. If you're going to add capailities to something, fine, but give the opportunity to say yea or nay first.

    While not as bad as Sony's rootkit fiasco, it does point out the growing hubris of we, the software users of the world, when we believe that we still have control of how our systems work and how they are configured. It's not just worms and viruses now, but wholesale invasion by any company that feels you're not using their product most effectively. Pretty soon I expect Adobe Reader to ask me "Should you be reading that?" or IE to say "Sorry, no Slashdot for you today!"

  • by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF ( 813746 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @12:39PM (#14044565)

    I'm just surprised that AOL has taken this long to begin sending you advertisements via AIM. They have a near-monopoly on IM communications...

    AOL has 56% last time I looked. 56% a monopoly does not make.

    As an aside, can we please move out of the dark ages of text chatting? Multiple, incompatible formats on different networks, without publicly available bridging is pathetic. Please everyone, switch to Jabber and set up a bridge until it gains most of the market. It's as if MSN users could not e-mail AOL users who could not e-mail Yahoo users. Remember when the internet used to be about standards and used for communication, instead of lock-ins and sending you ads?

  • I haven't seen this (Score:2, Interesting)

    by TubeSteak ( 669689 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @12:44PM (#14044623) Journal
    Nobody has actually said what these two bots are called

    Possible reasons why I don't know what everyone is talking about
    1. I use AIM Ad Hack [webhop.net]
    2. I hate that "AIM Today" and have it disabled
    3*. My buddy list is set only to allow users already on it

    *The AIM bot that notifies you when you're logged on in more than one location seems to ignore this setting & appears anyway
  • Not on GAIM, yet (Score:3, Interesting)

    by Jtheletter ( 686279 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @12:48PM (#14044664)
    Using GAIM here at work and as of now these haven't shown up on my friends list.

    What I wonder is what happens security-wise when some AIM virus (always new ones popping up) manages to infect these bots? When it's just a question of one person's buddy list being used by a virus to propagate, the infection is limited somewhat by the low number of contacts. What happens when the same contact appears in say 75% of people's lists? Granted, the bot is administrated by AOL directly and no doubt has better security in place than your average user or user's bot, but I wonder if perhaps such a wide-reaching target will prove irresistible for virus writers. Just musing, I'm sure some people more familiar with the inner workings of AIM can refute or corroborate this idea.

  • by 3-State Bit ( 225583 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @01:13PM (#14044965)
    The only way we'd know if the Internet became sentient is if it stepped up and said 'hi.'

    Wrong. We'll know from Google's search results. Mark my words, one day the following search result will cease to be returned forever:
    Your search did not match any documents.

    Suggestions:
    - Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
    - Try different keywords.
    - Try more general keywords.

    That's when we'll know. [google.com]
  • Here we are... found a list out on the intranet... I didn't know a few of these existed. I'm sure other corporations have some as well.

    Who Is - do BluePages name and phone info searches
    Helpline - Helpdesk FAQs searches
    What Is - Definitions of acronyms
    StockQuote - IBM and all other stock quotes
    Dictionary - English language dictionary
    SkillTap - contact others that may be able to help you
    W3Alert - send broadcasts out to selected groups
  • by Anonymous Coward on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @01:30PM (#14045136)
    I'm with you on this one. These are services that acutally add value to the AIM platform. Why on earth are we all complaining that they've added features. If you don't want to search for products, or get movie times in your area, don't use 'em. If they offend you, delete them from your buddy list. Don't go complain they shouldn't be adding resources for us all to use.
    Now, if these things start initiating conversations with me, unsolicited, that's going to be a problem, and I will be the first to complain (and loud). As it stands now, though, aside from a short message informing me of a new feature, these things are non-intrusive, USEFUL resources. That's more than I can say for that irritating ad window above the buddy list, and no one's lobbying to get that removed.

    What am I missing?
  • by FauxFoe ( 926656 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @01:41PM (#14045242)
    I personally would much rather get an instant response on movie showtimes from the MovieFone bot than have to load up a new tab in Firefox, go to my favorite movie website, enter my ZIP, and wait for all of those pages involved to load. Am I alone here?
  • by ralphart ( 70342 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @02:05PM (#14045457)
    Has anyone tried "Warning" the bots?

    Perhaps a well-orchestrated campaign would send a message to those responsible for this bit of obnoxiousness.
  • by Duct Tape Jedi ( 802164 ) on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @02:20PM (#14045585)
    it seems like programs changing your settings without consent is becoming more and more common. Yesterday Blizzard released a launcher thingy for World of Warcraft. The launcher scans for cheats and keyloggers etc and has links to the WoW website with news. The problem a lot of people have with the new WoW launcher is that reagardless of your systems settings it ALWAYS launches links in IE and if you have program access and defaults set to not allow IE it changes them.
  • Useful for me today (Score:2, Interesting)

    by ihistand ( 170799 ) * on Wednesday November 16, 2005 @08:30PM (#14048612)
    From the "for what it's worth" department....

    Today I was in need of a new photo printer, and had decided on an HP Photosmart 8750. Several area stores listed it, none in stock. I was about to give up and have it delivered, but then signed on to Gaim and there was "ShoppingBuddy" I figured, what the heck, I'll give him/her/it a try. Well about 4 IMS, a couple clicks, and a phone call later, I found my beloved printer at my local OfficeDepot, a store I hadn't thought of checking previously. An hour later and my new printer is churning through a stack of 8x10's I needed to produce.

    So there you have it. ShoppingBuddy is in fact useful.

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