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Enterprise Fans Buy Full-Page Ad In LA Times 440

jangobongo writes "SciFiWire.com reports that fans of Star Trek Enterprise have succeeded in placing a full-page ad in the LA Times. The ad will urge someone to pick up the show for a fifth season. According to the official fan site, a Star Trek Enterprise fan working for the LA Times has arranged a special deal for a discounted ad. Donations collected to date have covered the cost of the ad which will be located in the "A" section of the paper on Feb. 21."
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Enterprise Fans Buy Full-Page Ad In LA Times

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  • by gid13 ( 620803 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @08:37PM (#11655399)
    I wonder when the demand for some shows will become great enough that fans will be able to finance entire shows DIRECTLY. Could probably save a pretty penny by not having to pay so many executives too.
  • Add (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 12, 2005 @08:40PM (#11655415)
    The entire open source community could hardly gather money for the Firefox add in 3(?) months, but a few Star Trek fans gather for an LA Times add in 2(?) weeks?

    omfg.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 12, 2005 @08:41PM (#11655419)
    That have had similar campaigns is that the vast majority of the audience believed in the people behind them. Whether it was Angel, or Farscape, or even the original Star Trek, people respected the person(s) in charge of making the show happen, and they were upset with how a studio/channel treated them unfairly.

    This is different, though. No one has been more vocal about the problems with B&B than the fans. Why support them? Why raise money for them to make another season? Let them take the fall on this one even if it means an end to Star Trek right now. It'd be better to start a campaign to raise money on the condition they were gone from the Star Trek helm.
  • ENOUGH! (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Turn-X Alphonse ( 789240 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @08:41PM (#11655422) Journal
    This needs to not become a habit. If loads of people get full page adverts in magazines for every little fanbase then it will become meaningless.

    Enterprise has been a rather poor series from the start. It didn't follow the Star Trek theme at all, it didn't feel like Star Trek. It seemed more of a parody which could of been named "Hicks in space".

    I'm not a HUGE Trekkie, but I'll happily watch anything EXCEPT Enterprise. Where as I can't even stand to watch a full episode of the "new" series. I understand fans want to keep it around, but if it dies (and no offence to anyone but lets hope it does), we might get a real series. No more "Oh no we met a new race who think we're all hicks, lets make friends with them and save the universe!" and alot more "Well.. lets go look at that thing no one understands and go "WTF" when everything goes wrong or someone is taken over by an alien/warp entity thing.

    Hell as far as I know they don't even have a Holo-deck, surely that cuts the series length in half without the "OMG SAFEY HAS BEEN REMOVED" episodes.
  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 12, 2005 @08:41PM (#11655423)
    Wait, so you think that the same people who will go apeshit and gripe unholy whenever asked to pay for a CD or cable or something will suddenly pay hundreds of thousands / millions to completely finance a long run television series? Um, yeah.
  • Re:Come on (Score:2, Interesting)

    by redcone ( 838393 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @08:45PM (#11655450) Homepage
    I agree. Let it die. I was a Star Trek fan for many years, but Voyager, DS9, and now Enterprise conspired to suck the life out of a great idea. Enterprise could have been a great series had they just went with the idea of chronicling the early days of space exploration and forgot all the time travellers from the future trying to destroy the federation before it even began.
  • Re:NYT? (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 12, 2005 @08:51PM (#11655481)
    Last time I checked, Hollywood was in LA
  • by TheKidWho ( 705796 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @08:54PM (#11655503)
    Get off your high horse and start watching the newest season of enterprise. It by far kicks major ass.

    Watch it Pink Skin.
  • by fm6 ( 162816 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @09:02PM (#11655563) Homepage Journal
    ...little more than a container for P.C./lefty proselytization...
    Which pretty much describes Star Trek in general, or indeed anything with Gene Roddenberry's name on it. I mean, St. Gene was pretty much a stereotype of the Big L Liberal. If "PC" bothers you, why did you ever watch Star Trek in the first place?
  • by cnettel ( 836611 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @09:03PM (#11655566)
    I like Star Wars because it has excellent acting and dealt with good versus evil. Star Wars is essentially a medieval tale (of knights and a princess) shrouded in sci-fi props: lasers, spaceships, etc.
    And that is why we have to be really careful about Trek. I do NOT want it to deteriorate into a we-are-good-because-we-are-good story. ST is about people with ideals. SW is more about, well, people.

    In addition to the acting, what I couldn't find in Enterprise were those ideals. Sure, Archer talks about them sometimes, but I simply don't get that impression. Even Voyager could give me some of that. In fact, I think parts of DS9 got too much of "epic tale of good against evil" sometimes, while Voyager at its worst just got boring. I think I, for one, can prefer boring.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 12, 2005 @09:15PM (#11655644)
    Well since a new Quantum Leap movie (featuring Sam Beckett's daughter) is in the works (and perhaps a series if the movie does well) then Scott Bakula could quantum leap to Quantum Leap.
  • Re:Move on! (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Saturday February 12, 2005 @09:22PM (#11655691)
    Yes, clearly all the people who are saying BSG is the best scifi show on television at the moment are delusional, and you mighty few are, in fact, correct. Or maybe you're just a bitter Trekkie. As the case may be.
  • Re:Come on (Score:2, Interesting)

    by The Bubble ( 827153 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @09:24PM (#11655707) Homepage

    I have mixed feelings. On one hand, I'd hate to see a Star Trek series die like this, especially when there is no alternative (in the Star Trek universe) to take its place. I am one of the few who enjoy Enterprise; it has something that most of the others have lost out on: contiguous storylines. The 'Brady Bunch' syndrome of Voyager really got annoying.

    Still, I'm afraid of what would happen if someone takes pity on the series. I am reminded of Stargate SG-1, the MGM masterpiece that turned quick-and-dirty sci-fi. I would hate for Enterprise to start reminding me of Andrommeda.

  • Alluring Theme Tune (Score:4, Interesting)

    by zootm ( 850416 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @10:06PM (#11655987)
    Right. Enterprise. I'm sure it's a perfectly good show. Maybe even good. But am I the only one who instinctively turns their TV off before the end of the theme tune?

    It could be the worst theme on television. Ever.
  • Good luck (Score:3, Interesting)

    by anethema ( 99553 ) on Saturday February 12, 2005 @11:58PM (#11656642) Homepage
    A friend recommended me to watch the pilot of Battlestar Galactica. After seeing that (then of course watching the entire season1), I have this to say to enterprize fans: Good luck.

    This is obviously just my humble personal opinion, but from what ive seen, ST:E has absolutly -nothing- on BSG.
  • by hotshot2000 ( 88939 ) on Sunday February 13, 2005 @01:00AM (#11656945)
    The problem with your argument is that you assume the presence of Enterprise doesn't affect those who dislike it. That is false.

    1) Aired Trek becomes canon, that is, it becomes part of the mythos that needs to be factored in by, e.g., Trek novels -- those who dislike Enterprise also dislike the fact that future series and books will need to take its presence into account, and spend at least some energy addressing the (in their opinion) contradictions and dubious elements it introduces into the mythos.

    2) The resources being used on Enterprise (squandered, according to those who dislike it) could be put to better use on better Trek if Enterprise was off the air.

    Please realize that at least some of those who advocate the cancellation of Enterprise are not mean-spirited folk who want to take away your enjoyment, but rather equally earnest people trying to ensure the future of Trek they enjoy, in the same way that Enterprise supporters believe themselves to be acting.
  • Re:Come on (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Asgorath ( 806125 ) on Sunday February 13, 2005 @06:04AM (#11658169) Homepage
    This just makes me realise in what a privaliged, wonderfull world we live. If your biggest problems and concerns consists of dilema's like this.... you really need to praise yourself lucky for leading such a wonderfull, protected and good life.

    Having said all that, here in the Netherlands they are just at the start of season 3 and Enterprise is the only Star Trek show that doesn't physically hurt to watch. Well except the original, but that's more because that one is just hilariously funny.

    I will always be amazed how people actually enjoy shows like TNG and Voyager and the first few seasons of DS9. Horrible, horrible space-soaps. DS9 only became good when it started to steal idea's from B5 in my humble opinion.

    I am amazed at that Enterprise actually managed to become a decend series that has some real humanbeings and not this fake "oh this planet has been at war for 10.000 years. Lets talk it out in 30 minutes and peace shall reign forever" or "I've got a crush on crewman x and really don't know what to do with it" or "teach me how to be more human captain Janeway. and do my boobs show up enouth in this suit?" or my ultimate favorite "we as actors and writers are bored and out of idea's, I know... lets go to an alternate reality where we can all act really poorly for the eppisodes running time acting out different charcters. And if that doesn't work, how about getting stuck on the holodeck?", etc. etc...

    The irony is that I can remember trekkies even bitching like hell about series like Voyager. Now however all these series are good because they found a new Star Trek series to hate. Why do Trekies actually like Star Trek? Seeing as how much they complain about it?

    Mind you, all that time traveling nonsense in Enterprise. But thank god for nomore holodecks and whiny whiny eppisodes that feel like "As the world turns.. in spaccceeeeee".
  • by Anonymous Coward on Sunday February 13, 2005 @11:18PM (#11664469)
    Well TFG I think you are way off the mark. Enterprise had nothing whatsoever to do with following any Star Wars model?? There was simply nowhere to go with another 'forward looking' series. There are only so many stories to tell and so many ways to tell them and the simple fact that any new Star Trek series gets lumbered with fifty million tons of baggage from all the previous ones means that it's stuffed before it even starts. The only way a new ST series could work is if they get ALL NEW ppl writing, producing, directing and editing. Having all those old hacks from ST:NG and Voyager directing every episode and Braga and Berman producing was the kiss of death. How about we DON'T bring back ST, or keep it going whatever, until Berman and Braga are dead, and all those ST:NG leftovers have been sucked up an anal anomaly?

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