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Gaim Maintainer Rob Flynn Interviewed 228

gaimster writes "LinuxQuestions.org just interviewed gaim maintainer Rob Flynn. gaim version 1.0.0 was recently released and it has been the most active project on SourceForge for a while. In the interview, Rob explains what it's like to maintain such a popular project, how he got involved with gaim and what he thinks of some of the IM protocols that gaim supports. He also explains the Ebay auctions that gaim had a while back."
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Gaim Maintainer Rob Flynn Interviewed

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  • Gaim rules (Score:5, Informative)

    by alatesystems ( 51331 ) <.chris. .at. .chrisbenard.net.> on Saturday September 25, 2004 @05:04PM (#10350687) Homepage Journal
    Gaim is really awesome. We use it internally at work for Jabber(internal instant messenging). It's amazing just how many protocols it supports natively. It is a great client even though it's using GTK in windows. I already donated to the gaim project, and so should anyone else who uses it on a regular basis.

    I love this project and hope it continues well into the future.

    Chris
  • Re:Gaim. (Score:2, Informative)

    by Whyte ( 65556 ) on Saturday September 25, 2004 @05:33PM (#10350872)
    You probably didn't have the newest version of GAIM installed, or you were using it right after MSN changed their protocol.

    Since the various IM's keep changing their protocols, GAIM is constently needed to patch those changes. They have a rather quick release cycle though, which is one of the main reason I continue to use it.

    Viva la Gaim!
  • by Tezkah ( 771144 ) on Saturday September 25, 2004 @05:50PM (#10350959)
    No, it was suspected that the Cerulean Studios were using GPL code in Trillian, but it has been determined to be false. [neohapsis.com]
  • by xiando ( 770382 ) on Saturday September 25, 2004 @05:52PM (#10350974) Homepage Journal
    What I really like about Gaim is the libraries, they have been the basis for many other excellent tools. Like BitlBee http://www.bitlbee.org/ [bitlbee.org], a very nice gateway that allows you to talk to anyone using anything through your irc client. Aterm + Screen + Irssi is my personal favorite communication's suite.

    BitlBee Guide - Talk to msn, icq and jabber contacts using any IRC client: http://linuxreviews.org/software/irc/bitlbee/ [linuxreviews.org]
  • by rainwater ( 530678 ) on Saturday September 25, 2004 @05:59PM (#10351005)
    Since the dropline win32 GTK runtime distribution is no longer maintained, are they rolling their own?

    Yes, they have developed their own gtk installer.
  • Re:I beg to differ (Score:2, Informative)

    by smacktits ( 737334 ) on Saturday September 25, 2004 @06:02PM (#10351021)
    I second that. I was a user of Trillian Professional and was most impressed, but after finding out about Miranda I never bought another copy of Trillian.
  • Re:IM test bots? (Score:3, Informative)

    by Quattro Vezina ( 714892 ) on Saturday September 25, 2004 @06:58PM (#10351363) Journal
    Well, I know that AIM has SmarterChild. Dunno about other networks tho.
  • Re:Gaim rules (Score:3, Informative)

    by cjpez ( 148000 ) on Saturday September 25, 2004 @07:02PM (#10351388) Homepage Journal
    Windows Gaim != UN*X Gaim

    I've been using Gaim for, well, a long time now, and the only problems I've ever had with it were protocol changes from yahoo which meant I had to wait for the next version of Gaim to come out before I could connect again. The Unix versions of Gaim *do* offer the kind of stability you're after, but the Windows port is apparently something else.

  • Re:IM test bots? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Minna Kirai ( 624281 ) on Saturday September 25, 2004 @07:40PM (#10351576)
    Maybe because I'm on ICQ, and that is on AIM.

    If you haven't used IM before, you shouldn't be on ICQ. Sign up for AIM (or MSN, yahoo, or whatever).

    Here's another way to test AIM:
    1. AOLSafetyBot: Hi ya! I'm the AOLSafetyBot, and I'm here to answer your questions about how to stay safe online. Type privacy to read my Privacy Policy. Ask me a question or type menu for a list of options.
  • Re:Phonegaim? (Score:2, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Sunday September 26, 2004 @10:19AM (#10354500)
    Phonegaim will not merge, because the code is too different from gaim. However gaim-vv will eventually merge. See this bugreport for extra info http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=deta il&aid=993724&group_id=235&atid=35023 [sourceforge.net]
  • by spyrochaete ( 707033 ) on Sunday September 26, 2004 @12:35PM (#10355272) Homepage Journal
    Okay, looks like someone here has a career in manually pleasuring penguins.

    "It drops [MSN] connections all the time"
    This was a problem a few versions ago. 1.0.0 (and indeed the few releases prior to it) have worked excellently for moi.


    Well la dee da for you. If you had the cranial capacity to look at the changelog [sourceforge.net] you'd be well aware that they have not addressed this issue at all. This means, senor narcicist, that if it worked for you before it'll work now. But thanks for coming out.

    "[Gaim] displays a big, mandatory connect window whenever it tries to reconnect."
    Only for people that are too fucking stupid to explore the preferences.


    Yuh huh. And that preference would be where? I configured it up the ying yang and even (gasp!) installed a plugin or two. My complaints are about features that are unaddressed by the programmers for whatever reason. Wow buddy, never get a job in QA.

    "I had to terminate the client while watching a movie during an internet outage because it kept superimposing messages over BSplayer every 5 minutes."
    Another case of the previous issue. This can all be disabled if you have a little bit of IT nouse and a few grey cells. It's just a checkbox or two, nothing too difficult, y'know.


    Indeed, if this were programmed in, I would do it. Alas, nay. Instead you've hurt the GAIM staff's feelings by making their omission appear easy to implement. ... You realize we're talking about GAIM here right? Maybe you've just misspelled Trillian. G-A-I-M. I'll spell it again for you if exceedingly that long acronym caused too many CRC errors in your brain's buffer.
    ...... did he say "nouse"?

    "The file manager is absolute garbage"
    I have to say I never tried using Gaim as a file manager. I always mistook it for a multi-protocol IM/chat client. *shrugs*


    Then you may be interested to learn that, in this astounding day of rocket ships and test tube babies, some IM protocols allow file transfer. Yeah, it's amazing, so take a minute to catch your breath. True, someone added the feature to drag a file onto the chat window to send it, but recieving files is a nightmare. Upon recieving a file, the programmers could have left the file manager tasks to the OS instead of writing their own crappy one. Instead, they implemented a very substandard one which is incapable of remembering where you want to save incoming files. My point is that just because a bundled feature is not a program's main feature, it doesn't mean there is any excuse for it to be poor.

    (Of course, if you refer to the open/save dialogs, they're Gtk2.4 related and you can't really blame the Gaim guys for that.)

    Read my original post again and you will quite plainly see that I do. A poor worker blames his tools.

    "the directory shortcut buttons point to ridiculous places"
    Erm, change them. ?


    How? There is no feature in the GUI. "Then why don't you edit the source, you twit" you shall retort. Well, my fatheaded friend, you must understand that no good program relies on user source editing in order to make it function the way you want it. It's called ergonomics, intuitiveness, useability... sorry, I forgot who I was talking to. "E-Z". Got it? You sure?

    "GAIM is nowhere near ready for 1.0."
    People have said the same about, oh, I dunno, Windows. But that reached version 2-frickin-thousand a few years back.


    You can spot a simpleton a mile away when their only argument is badmouthing Microsoft without actually saying why. It's the Linux snob's way of crawling into the fetal position. Even if this was true, you're saying that it's okay for GAIM to prematurely declare version 1.0 because another programmer has done it in the past? Sure, if you're a corner cutter scrounging for

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