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Wikipedia Hits Million-Entry Mark 348

Sir Homer writes "The Wikimedia Foundation announced today the creation of the one millionth article in Wikipedia. Started in January 2001, Wikipedia is currently both the world's largest encyclopedia and fastest-growing, with articles under active development in over 100 languages. Nearly 2,500 new articles are added to Wikipedia each day, along with ten times that number of updates to existing articles. Wikipedia now ranks as one of the ten most popular reference sites on the Internet, according to Alexa.com. It is increasingly used as a resource by students, journalists, and anyone who needs a starting point for research. Wikipedia's rate of growth has continued to increase in recent months, and at its current pace Wikipedia will double in size again by next spring." stevejobsjr writes "Wikipedia needs our help. The Wikipedia project has no ads, and is run completely by volunteers. Still, it takes money to run such an amazing resource, and so they are running a fundraiser. The goal is to raise $50,000."
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Wikipedia Hits Million-Entry Mark

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  • by User 956 ( 568564 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @04:59AM (#10306225) Homepage
    Wikipedia is not what many casual Web surfers think it is.

    It's not the online version of an established, well-researched traditional encyclopedia. Instead, Wikipedia is a do-it-yourself encyclopedia, without any credentials. The Wikipedia is not an authoritative source. It even states this in their disclaimer on their Web site [wikipedia.org].

    It's fairly easy toinsert misleading and false information into Wiki. [frozennorth.org] Don't use it like as a replacement for an encyclopedia, or a properly vetted secondary source, unless you're an idiot.
  • Before you say .. (Score:5, Informative)

    by Eloquence ( 144160 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:16AM (#10306303)
    • .."why should I trust Wikipedia, it's written by random people"?
    • .."there's been a successful experiment [frozennorth.org] of inserting false information..."
    • "the neutral point of view doesn't work"
    • "it's just an encyclopedia .."

    Please read this:

    Wikipedia has now hit another quantitative milestone (we reached 500,000 articles in the same year). It is now clear that volunteers can build a free, structured information resource which rivals all such proprietary resources. This is an accomplishment of immense importance, but it is not the end goal.

    Article review

    Wikipedia is not perfect yet. But from day one, we've been thinking about and tinkering with quality control mechanisms. The one which is currently in active use is the Featured Article Candidates [wikipedia.org] nomination process as well as the Votes for deletion [wikipedia.org] negative equivalent. There's also a peer review page [wikipedia.org] which is in active use.

    These are just trial balloons. They're not the end product, the peer review process which we need. There's a WikiProject Fact and Reference Check [wikipedia.org] formed to explore a review system centered around individual factual statements in an article. I have also proposed [gmane.org] such a system. There's also an article rating system that is currently in the CVS version of MediaWiki [sourceforge.net], our free wiki software.

    We are all aware of the problem, and we all know that we have to fix this problem before Wikipedia can be a trusted authority. Doing this kind of systematic quality review will require the same level of dedication and effort as creating the encyclopedia in the first place. But we will do it, and not too far from now you will read "1000 reviewed articles", "10000 reviewed articles" announcements, and so on. And this review will be more in-depth than the review process of any traditional encyclopedia, because it will be done by thousands of volunteers from all political and religious persuasions.

    There will always be an unstable edition of Wikipedia where you can go to read the latest information, with a big caveat lector sign on the front door. But we will also build a stable edition which we will distribute to the entire planet.

    Neutrality

    The Neutral Point of View [wikipedia.org] is our guiding principle. However, that does not mean that it is the only way to write articles. Because Wikipedia's content is free, you can take it and start a fork that is written using a different methodology.

    There's Wikinfo [wikinfo.org], which presents a "sympathetic point of view" on the main article, and critical views on separate pages. There's Disinfopedia [disinfopedia.org] and dKosopedia [dkosopedia.com], which makes use of some of our content and develop it from a political/progressive perspective.

    We will support dynamic cross-project transclusion of our content so that it will be easy to set up a project fork with a different policy. Wikipedia will always be the largest knowledge repository, but if you want the "truth" from a particular point of view, you will be able to consult a resource that is written by people who share that point of view. You can start such a fork right now if you want to - just download the database [wikimedia.org] and get going.

    It's more than an encyclopedia

    The Wikimedia Foundation [wikimediafoundation.org] currently operates Wikip

  • Re:So what? (Score:4, Informative)

    by mandalayx ( 674042 ) * on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:17AM (#10306306) Journal
    A smaller number of good, well-edited articles on topics that people actually care about would be better.


    they [wikipedia.org] already [wikipedia.org] exist [wikipedia.org] on wikipedia.

    want more? it takes a while to get to a million. maybe you can help...
  • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:23AM (#10306330)
    That's the other story here. The wiki engine is MediaWiki [sourceforge.net], written in PHP and requiring MySQL. The confession can be found here [wikipedia.org].
  • by RyoSaeba ( 627522 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:24AM (#10306335) Journal
    I'm a contributor on fr:, and there are *many* ways to contribute, even if it's not your field of expertise.

    You can:
    * correct typos
    * reformulate obscure sentences
    * fix invalid links (ie correct [[SlashDot]] => [[Slashdot]]
    * translate articles from other languages (i translated from en: the history of a country i didn't even know :))
    * send patches for the software, MediaWiki
  • Re:Yes (Score:3, Informative)

    by RichardX ( 457979 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:30AM (#10306359) Homepage
    Maybe you should give an actual example to give some substance to your concern.
    ok then [slashdot.org]

  • by RyoSaeba ( 627522 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:34AM (#10306371) Journal
    There are plans for DVD versions. There are even WikiReader [wikipedia.org], german (for now) printed versions of some articles, sold for a low price.
  • by presroi ( 657709 ) <neubau@presroi.de> on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:36AM (#10306378) Homepage
    Try this page [wikimedia.org] for example. There is an english translation as well.

    And, i might add, there are several other projects for CD/DVD distributions as well (all on meta.) HTH.
  • by RyoSaeba ( 627522 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:37AM (#10306380) Journal
    Actually, you can use the History of an article, and pick a specific version. You then have the guarantee to always refer to this version, not the current one.
  • by ImaLamer ( 260199 ) <john@lamar.gmail@com> on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @05:44AM (#10306408) Homepage Journal
    I've contributed, but it's easy.

    I don't be having the best grammar, or anything, but a simple edit here and there can really help.

    Take for example a article about the city where I live. For most (or all) cities there are lists of famous people from that city. I noticed some obscure, but a few notable, people were left out. All I had to do was stick them in there with a few brackets around their names and Viola!

    An easy way to get started is to look for stub articles [wikipedia.org] and go from there. Many times the stub articles have related information already on Wikipedia. And many times the information can be gathered from the Internet and texts you already own. Grab a book of the shelf and write about the topic in your own words. See, you don't have to be the expert - people have already written volumes on most subjects.

    Another way to get started with stub pages is to find a stub that has an official website. This article [wikipedia.org] is a good example. Even biography stubs are good candidates for this considering most actors (for example) have their own web sites today. Earlier I noticed that Lou Rawls [wikipedia.org] was a stub page. I simply put his official page as an "External Link" and listed it on "pages needing attention [wikipedia.org]" with a note and link telling everyone that he has an official bio. While the page isn't beautiful at this point it is starting out.

    One last way to start out is just by surfing around reading things your interested in. If you notice that "Star Wars" links to "Luke Skywalker" but not the other way around then you can fix that. If you notice a sentence misworded or a word spelled wrong you can fix that too.

    I'd recommend creating a user name because this allows you to later on claim certain articles as your own. By this I mean; even though you aren't the expert now, you could be someday. Imagine adding that to your resume. "I've created 150 articles for the Internet's free encyclopedia project" or something to that effect. It can help explain what you've been doing between jobs. Looks like charity work almost.

    Even input on Wikipedia's discussion pages can help. There are several articles that seemed weird or unclear to me and all I did was suggest another route. It's worked in a few cases. Sometimes editors just need another point of view.

  • Re:Yes (Score:5, Informative)

    by Eloquence ( 144160 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @06:18AM (#10306489)
    It's never been the encyclopedia that Slashdot built. Everything2 [everything2.com] is. In fact, before there was Everything2, there was everything.slashdot.org. The code was created by some of the same people as Slashdot, and so was a content. For a while, Slashdot used to link to E2 articles using "[?]" links. Of course, unlike Wikipedia articles, you can't just start to improve them. Everything2 is a very geeky system that takes a long time to grok, with a complex, role-playing style experience model that hooks people.

    Wikipedia started out as the progeny of Nupedia, a very serious, peer-reviewed encyclopedia which managed to produce all of two dozen articles. If you look at the Wayback Machine [archive.org] in July 2001, you will find that Wikipedia early on was actually quite philosophy-centric (in part because the original, full-time chief editor, Larry Sanger, is a philsopher).

    Of course we have Slashdot readers among our editors, including myself. But we also have credentialed experts and amateurs from many different fields. We try to make it as easy as possible to join in, and many people who know nothing about computers do. If you (the reader, not the parent poster) know a way to make Wikipedia easier to use, please do not hesitate to submit a feature request [wikipedia.org].

    We don't go around deleting articles on geeky subjects if they're well-written and encyclopedic. But Wikipedia never aimed exclusively at a nerdy audience and its editors were never made up exclusively of members of that audience.

  • Re:um. (Score:2, Informative)

    by sensui ( 137980 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @06:42AM (#10306558)
    Quality is more important than quantity in encyclopedia like reference. But there is no simple ways of voting down the articles that suck.

    Another problem is I cannot cite Wikipedia in my reports or papers. I can certainly cite Britannica. And most schools have subscriptions to EB anyway.
  • Re:Yes (Score:3, Informative)

    by quigonn ( 80360 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @06:49AM (#10306582) Homepage
    In fact, I saw a major Austrian newspaper regularly refer to Wikipedia when it comes to explaining terms from the IT industry.
  • Re:Yes (Score:5, Informative)

    by Eloquence ( 144160 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @08:10AM (#10306945)
    When was the last time you read a story about Ayn Rand on Slashdot? The founder of Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, is an objectivist (highly active participant in the We the Living [wetheliving.com] objectivism portal, check the Atlantis archive, also do a groups.google search), and so are many of his friends, therefore there was a strong libertarian/objectivist bent to Wikipedia articles in the early days. That has nothing to do with "the encyclopedia that Slashdot built" type nonsense. These people didn't come from Slashdot. These are the people that started Wikipedia.

    The Jargon file was one of the early sets of data that was imported. This highlights a general problem with importing data, in that large sets of data imported from a single source may skew the overall impression of Wikipedia in one direction or another, without that impression necessarily being based on any real inherent bias. It's just like saying "Wikipedia is made of US census fans".

    I've first edited Wikipedia articles about half a year after it started and am quite familiar with the project's history.

  • Re:Yes (Score:5, Informative)

    by ricotest ( 807136 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @08:14AM (#10306971)
    Wikipedia has a policy on bots [wikipedia.org] that, while largely negative, allows limited use of bots for certain things.

    One example is that a whole bunch of articles from a 1911 dictionary were added. Another is that 30,000 US towns and cities were automatically added as stubs, with information being added later (basic information, such as state and population, were included I believe).

    This might be useful: History of Wikipedia bots [wikipedia.org]

    30,000 is a chunk of 1 million, but not that large a chunk. You just might have been unlucky ;)
  • Re:Awesome! (Score:1, Informative)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @08:28AM (#10307092)
    it is difficult to "demonstrate" Wikipedia's quality limitations as it is a subjective definition. But I know that I've used Wikipedia alot ever since it started, and I've had it demonstrated to me over and over again that Wikipedia is not to be taken too seriously. There are just too many mistakes and biased articles.
  • by Famatra ( 669740 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @08:43AM (#10307205) Journal

    Good post Eloquence, you might want to help with this project here that does fact and referencing checks [wikipedia.org] for Wikipedia.

    There is already an example #2 [wikipedia.org] of how a tab format might auto generate the quotations, and then people can fill in the sources. Click edit to see the tab structure currently based on comment tabs.

    Tim Starling already knows about this, we'd just need a couple lines of code added to Wikimedia to make some custom tabs.

  • Re:Yes (Score:3, Informative)

    by Chuq ( 8564 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @08:53AM (#10307304) Journal
    1. Versioning: If I say I got something from the 1975 Encyclopaedia Brittanica, you can go and check that I got my reference right. Then you can check if the fact was right in that version. With wiki, if I say I got it from the 20.2.2002 wiki, simply finding out if I got the quote right can be a problem.

    3. Editorship: Most other sources have clear lines about which author is responsible for a whole article, and one person who is responsible for seeing that facts are preserved and false statements are reviewed. There is no clear line of responsibility in a wiki article.


    So far as these two issues go:
    1. You can reference old versions of articles easily, such as this article on Ronald Reagan "frozen in time" on 3rd June this year [wikipedia.org].

    3. Every edit made to an article is recorded - username if logged in, IP address if not. The IP's may be hard to track, but you can check a user's information page or contact them on their talk page.

  • by PenguiN42 ( 86863 ) <taylork@alum. m i t .edu> on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @08:59AM (#10307336) Journal
    Now translate that to Wikipedia and select something that you want to influence. "Windows LongDredgeUphillWarrior 2043 is the best due to it's powerful features - etc". How much would it cost you to hire 10 people to 'maintain' this information for a year?

    Here's what would probably happen in wikipedia:

    1) These people would post this article.
    2) Most people using wikipedia would recognize it as violating NPOV (neutral point of view)
    3) The people editing would change the article to be more NPOV.
    4) The hired "maintainers" would change it back.
    5) Other people on wikipedia would change it back again.
    6) An "edit war" would ensue, with the page rapidly being edited back and forth.
    7) Someone would bring the edit war to the attention of a moderator.
    8) The moderator would lock the page -- and put a disclaimer at the top noting that it was locked -- until the cause for the edit war was hashed out between the participating parties
    9) It would eventually be determined that one or more of the "Maintatiners" were putting in the NPOV material on purpose.
    10) These "maintainers" would be banned (by ip address), and the article would be deleted or unlocked (depending on its usefulness as an article)
    11) Repeat until all the "maintainers" are banned.

    The system works because there are more "good guys" than "bad guys", effectively.
  • Re:fundraiser (Score:3, Informative)

    by Carthag ( 643047 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @09:06AM (#10307409) Homepage

    Quoth the parent poster; "Still, it takes money to run such an amazing resource, and so they are running a fundraiser. The goal is to raise $50,000." why dont they use Google Adsense?

    According to About Wikipedia [wikimediafoundation.org], they do not wish to use advertisements. I read elsewhere (which I of course can't find now) that this is partly because they want to appear as unbiased as possible.

  • by JimLane ( 810951 ) <`JamesMLane' `at' `aol.com'> on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @10:18AM (#10308032)
    The Wikipedia article on Slashdot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slashdot [wikipedia.org]) was vandalized by an anonymous user who inserted the "left wing and anti-american" passage that you quote. That passage was in the article for all of two minutes before it was removed, according to the page history (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Slashd ot&action=history [wikipedia.org] -- it was the edit at 16:40 UTC, reverted by user Fredrik at 16:42).

    There's a good chance that the vandalism was by a Slashdotter who was curious to see how quickly garbage would be removed. This "experiment" has been done, people. Repeatedly. Please stop it. Blatant errors in articles that get lots of attention are corrected quickly. Subtle errors in obscure articles can linger for a long time. We know this. Vandalizing Wikipedia adds nothing to the sum of human knowledge.
  • by JimLane ( 810951 ) <`JamesMLane' `at' `aol.com'> on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @10:27AM (#10308113)
    There are separate Wikipedias for different language. You visited the main page for the English-language Wikipedia, the largest, which has 350,000+ entries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page [wikipedia.org]). The occasion for the press release is that the total number of articles in all the different languages combined has just reached 1,000,000.
  • Re:Here's a metric. (Score:2, Informative)

    by Ponderoid ( 311576 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @11:38AM (#10308832)
    The complete complete database dump [wikimedia.org] of all prior versions in all languages is over 26 GB. But if you just want the current english version, it will fit nicely on a single CD-ROM, 358 MB. The current version of all languages is 842 MB, a bit too big to fit on a single CD-ROM but of course no problem for a DVD.

    *** Ponder
  • by timstarling ( 736114 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @11:52AM (#10308994) Homepage
    The answer is we don't know. We really should have just picked one that was created around that time and declared it to be the millionth. Makes for a good story. The million figure is for all languages, and statistics for all languages are only updated periodically. When we passed 300,000 on the English Wikipedia alone, we had an IRC bot spitting out article counts every few seconds, and a continuously updated number on the wiki. Someone posted about 50 pre-prepared stubs on English Footballers just as the number came up. Nothing of that kind happened this time, to my knowledge.
  • by j_heisenberg ( 464756 ) on Tuesday September 21, 2004 @11:52AM (#10308999)
    I don't know if anyone else noticed. A couple of weeks ago, when you googled for terms featured prominently in WP, Google showed the same article on thefreedictionary.com (WP clone with - surprise - ads) much higher on the list than WP itself. Often, WP was hidden on page x>1. Makes for a nice conspiracy ;]
  • Re:Here's a metric. (Score:3, Informative)

    by at_18 ( 224304 ) on Wednesday September 22, 2004 @09:12AM (#10317787) Journal
    The 358MB file you mention is only compressed text. Images and other binary files are a few gigabytes.

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