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AudioGalaxy Reaches Settlement With the RIAA 392

blanu writes: "Today AudioGalaxy reached an out-of-court settlement with the RIAA. To sum up the settlement, AudioGalaxy will pay the RIAA a lot of money and from now only provide songs for which the copyright holder has specifically given permission."
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AudioGalaxy Reaches Settlement With the RIAA

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  • I liked AG. (Score:2, Interesting)

    by domninus.DDR ( 582538 ) <domninus@hotmail.com> on Monday June 17, 2002 @07:58PM (#3719024) Homepage
    Using a non-spyware client version, it was the only place I could find the live sets from internet radio stations like Tag and Digitaly Imported. Now I guess Ill have to leave streamripper on 24/7 >.
  • by hymie3 ( 187934 ) on Monday June 17, 2002 @08:07PM (#3719078)
    Wow. Is it just me, or has every single song on audiogalaxy just been yanked? Other than featured artists, everything seems to be "permission denied".

    I *know* that there's indie stuff being shared that *was* okay to be posted (all of the SXSW demos, for example) but are now "permission denied" even though the artist in question has made the MP3s freely available.

    Soooo, at a whim, the RIAA can chmod -r all songs offered through audiogalaxy, even those that they have no control over?
  • Just a thought (Score:3, Interesting)

    by oPless ( 63249 ) on Monday June 17, 2002 @08:17PM (#3719135) Journal


    RIAA ... Monopoly ?

    They certainly think they are, because they seem to be "representing" bands that are unsigned

    So are they going to stump up the cash to these indie bands? ho ho ho.

    Can some of these indie band file a class action lawsuit against the RIAA for anti-trust ?

    Just a thought... IANAL
  • by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 17, 2002 @08:19PM (#3719152)
    I had a band back in the late '70s, I make the stuff available via AG. I just tried a search for it, the stuff was found, but downloading is blocked: "You cannot request this song due to copyright restrictions. "

    Well, I sure as shit never told anybody to block requests for Chinese Forehead, so this appears to be either "artist opts in" or 'Somebody else is claiming copyright on my stuff'

  • by pussycat ( 206606 ) on Monday June 17, 2002 @08:24PM (#3719173)
    Author of Sputnix here -- thanks for your kind comment.

    Audiogalaxy is/was an excellent service, underrated by many because of the obnoxious spyware they unfortunately propagated. No other p2p music sharing comes close, especially when it comes to finding older or rarer recordings.

    We are a culturally poorer country for the damage the RIAA has inflicted on our rights to fair use. This is a sad day -- it's not O.K. to say, "well just use Kazaa/Gnutella."

    Support the EFF [eff.org].
  • join groups (Score:1, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward on Monday June 17, 2002 @08:32PM (#3719210)
    no fret, audiogalaxy is still worth using... The copywright laws dont work for groups. All you have to do is join a bunch of groups and just take the songs from the people there. Theres no song blocking in the groups. I would suggest to use this to our advantage.
  • FUCK!!! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Groucho ( 1038 ) on Monday June 17, 2002 @08:35PM (#3719227)
    God damn those dickshitting chancre-eating mongo fuckers!

    Last night I heard a great new artist on a shoutcast station (another non-approved media outlet that they're trying to shut down) and today when I go to sample a couple more tracks, I find everything is locked up.

    Audiogalaxy was truly the best. It had just about every non-mainstream artist I'd ever heard of and then some. I've been buying CDs for the past two years exclusively based on stuff I've been able to sample from them.

    Compared to Audiogalaxy, Gnutella, Limewire and Kazaa users have nothing but crap. You might as well try and shop for interesting music at Walmart.

    Mainstream media can go BUTTFUCK ITSELF IN THE MOUTH. I'm still going to try and find stuff that gooses my juices but it's going to be harder to find and I won't therefore be buying as much. Not that the RIAA gives a bearded hag's ass--they only notice when someone buys the ten godzillionth unit of some spastic fucking living dead Franken-pop they sewed together out of Elvis Presley's anal warts and scraps from the dumpster out back Michael Jackson's plastic surgery disaster clinic.

    Fuck. I reiterate, FUCKKK.

    G
  • by mcc ( 14761 ) <amcclure@purdue.edu> on Monday June 17, 2002 @09:09PM (#3719368) Homepage
    On the contrary, in my opinion, AudioGalaxy was the absolute best such service for the mac because AG didn't support it. AG was shit for windows becuase of the cruddy client, but for the mac it was great because you just used one of the non-supported third-party clients, all of which were excellent.

    This brings up my question, though: third party clients. Is there any reason the extant 3rdparty clients out there could not just be set to, instead of talking to the now-crippled audiogalaxy server, talk to some independent audiogalaxy workalike? How difficult would it be to create an open-source implementation of an AudioGalaxy server, given we already have many open-source third-party implementations of clients? OpenNAP meets OpenAG? Cut loose, the way GiFT has cut loose from kazaa.

    I am just curious.

    In the meantime, may i assume it would maybe be possible to take the idea behind audiogalaxy (everyone publicly queues stuff they'd like to download someday, and transactions are negotiated automatically as bandwidth becomes available on all sides) and someday recreate it as a wholly-decentralized gnutella-style network? Or do you need that central authority doing the negotiations for you to keep everything from falling apart? I would have to think about the idea some more. You could maybe do it. If you tried, how would the web page frontend thing be handled? Would we just have to throw that idea out?

    I always thought that was the most disappointing thing about AG-- their "featured artists" were pretty good compared to (say) napster's, but i always thought it would be really neat if AG fufilled its potential as a site with a message board for every song in existence. This would be a godsend for those of us who like to collect really obscure music, especially bootlegs and such-- it would be convenient if, upon running across a track labelled (say) "Nine Inch Nails - eraser (Utter Desolation Remix -- Unreleased)" i could type that into a website, and even if i couldn't download the mp3 from there i could see some discussion and find out "this is fake" or "this is from X bootlegs & rarities compilation" or "this is a b-side from the japanese single of Y, only they renamed it". Allmusic.com meets everything2.com, or something :) Could a community-run version of such a website somehow tie into a decentralized community-run version of the AudioGalaxy idea? How would the client and the website communicate? A browser plugin, maybe? It would have to be something sufficiently disconnected to stave off the Out of Court Settlement Smackdown.. perhaps each webpage on the website could have an ID number / checksum, and you'd just cut&paste that ID number into your OpenGalaxy Client? Perhaps the "download this song" thingy could be inserted via some kind of variation on thirdvoice [c2.com], and the people who run the website could just insist, honestly officer, we can't help it if the mp3 pirate people choose to use our database as a base for checksumming and such. We just run a message board. We aren't connected to those people. These aren't the bots you're looking for.

    Ah well, idle wondering. In the meanwhile, i guess now i gotta go hit AudioGalaxy's site to find out how to inform them i give them permission to redistribute the music i own the rights to.. (Not that anyone *wants* to listen to my music.. just that it's the principle of the thing :) )
  • Re:RIP audiogalaxy (Score:2, Interesting)

    by goldspider ( 445116 ) on Monday June 17, 2002 @09:43PM (#3719516) Homepage
    All great points, but you have to recognize that in the majority of cases, it isn't the "obscure" music that people are downloading with these tools. I hate to start this argument again, but we all know that most of the music traded using these programs is mainstream, copyrighted material that users download because they don't want to pay for it.

    I'm all about freely trading music by artists without ties to the RIAA, because in most cases, that works to the advantage of the artists. However it's when you cross over to the material owned by the RIAA that you ask for trouble.

    Perhaps artists would be better off without these labels (a discussion for another day) but if they want to give up their rights (and their material) to the labels who don't care for anything but the bottom line and restrict the exposure of their music, ultimately it's their choice to do so.

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