FortKnox's Journal: Trolling Population Re-Directed?

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Apparently, trol^H^H^H^Hpeople that post auto -1 are only allowed to post twice a day.

Now, this may seem good (No more crapflooding! Yay!), but I think this may do more harm than good.

I think we'll see a rise in the amount of troll accounts. This is pretty much a form of censoring. Trolls can't redeem their accounts (what if my first post ever gets me knocked down to auto -1? How can I get my respect back if I can't post??).

The worst problem, though, is that they'll just start posting as AC (score:0). Its a lot easier to deal with logged in trolls, make them your foes, and keep them at -1 than having to sort through them to see legit AC posts that add to the conversation. Why not allow the subculture to scour down at -1? Its easier to contain them there!

interesting test idea...

[jeffy124]

currently the highest uid in the system is 593072. In a week or so, we'll see where that number is. Unfortunately, we dont know what that number was a week ago, so we dont know what the normal rate of new users is. But if we see a large number of new uids being trolls, then we can get a general idea of how many new troll uids there are.

Re:comment limits

[jeffy124]

ok, so it looks like the limits are the following:

• {k <= -1}, 2 posts/day
• {0 <= k <= 24} = 25/day
• {k >= 25} = 50/day

For each IPID (my guess is that's the md5 of your IP address + subnet or something) = 10/day regardless of logged in or not, or logged in as different users throughout the day.

From the looks of it, we may see trolls having several accounts using up their two posts each day with each account.

Using the 10 AC posts/day for trolling wont work after about 3-4 posts, as the downmods on those troll posts will result in bannings for AC posting from that IPID. Whether or not this affects logging in and posting I dont know.

Re:comment limits

[The Turd Report]

Using the 10 AC posts/day for trolling wont work after about 3-4 posts, as the downmods on those troll posts will result in bannings for AC posting from that IPID.

We are going to counter this by using the open proxies that everyone has been kind enough to set up for us. Based on how Taco and pals do subnet bans, I can get most cable companies banned, a '/24' at a time, within a few hours. I could get most of Asia, S. America and Europe banned as well, but it would take a bit more effort. :)

Re:comment limits

[Safety Cap]

That would be an interesting way of doing a DOS, kinda like where you tell the guy to shoot himself in the foot... and he does.

Re:comment limits

[The Turd Report]

Actually, you can get a open proxy to loop into itself. After a proxy has looped in to itself N thousand times, it tends to die. :)

Impossible

[damiam]

AFAIK you can't get knocked down to auto -1 on your first post.

I don't think that it's too bad.

[eugene ts wong]

I'm sure that there will always be people surfing at -1 to mod up. So, although it's unlikely that people will be able to recover, it isn't impossible. They could always start a new account. As for all the new troll accounts, and anonymous posts, you can avoid them by reading at +2.

Yes, I'm sure that there will be ways to break the system, but it is an improvement.