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Journal damn_registrars's Journal: A sequel to Godwin's Law 28

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This isn't really a corollary, though it's not far from being one. Godwin's Law of course states that given enough time any discussion on the internet will turn to talking about Hitler (or Nazis).

I've realized a while ago that American conservatives have their own "sequel" to Godwin's Law, and it goes something like this

Given a long enough discussion of politics with a conservative, they will try to get you to call them racist to end the discussion

It is somewhat the inverse of "race baiting", perhaps best called "racist baiting". I think we can call it the "Nobama Hypothesis" as I suspect many of the people who go for this play have the oh-so-clever "Nobama" bumper sticker on their car (likely often the variety with the hammer & sickle for an "O", and likely not far from their terrorist hunting permit).
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  • Are you saying that the Left hasn't spent the last five years saying opposition to the Obama regime is racism?
    Oh, lookee: Reason gives us A Modern Timeline of Liberals Claiming That Opposition to Obama = Racism [reason.com]
    So, take your hooey and stuff it, damn_registrars.

    • Are you saying that the Left hasn't spent the last five years saying opposition to the Obama regime is racism?

      The left has played that card vastly fewer times than the number of times that The Right declared anything in opposition to The Bush Regime to be "Un-American". Even more so, while you have some people from "The Left" in online discussions playing that card, during the Bush Regime we say the "Un-American" card played on the floor of the house.

      Oh, lookee: Reason gives us A Modern Timeline of Liberals Claiming That Opposition to Obama = Racism

      That does more to dispute your point than it does to support it.

      Can you show me even one time where you were called racist on slashdot for opposing Obama? You ha

      • called racist on slashdot for opposing Obama

        That would be a logical thing to say, if, in fact, the scope of your JE's premise "A sequel to Godwin's Law" were limited to Slashdot. But nothing in your JE purports to do that, and therefore a reasonable person would feel justified in noting a Reason.com article which points out that some fairly substantial names like, oh, Krugman, Olbermann, President Carter, Frank Rich, my own Congresstool Jim Moran (Thank. God. He's. Retiring.), &c have been quite content to go there, to say nothing of the Hollywei [youtube.com]

        • So we see that you cannot find an example of anyone actually calling you - or anyone else - on slashdot a racist for opposing Obama, even as much as you desperately try to bait them into doing so. You can't even come up with a verifiable and nonpartisan example of anyone of any importance calling someone else racist only for opposing Obama, as desperately as you want it to be the case.

          Thank you again.

          it's OK just to quite

          To quite what, exactly? I'll be quite exactly right in my point, as you have shown. Can you bring this

          • You completely ignore my point that you can't bring in a global concept like "Godwin's Law" and then attempt to limit its application to the scope of Slashdot. I showed you my point with the Reason.com link: Lefties can and have, systematically, played the race card to stifle debate for years. It's so effing blatant, even Jon Stewart mocked the problem on the Daily Show [cc.com], for crying out loud in the dark.
            It's that bad.
            So, do "quit" while you're behind, to amend last night's exhausted typo. Or, don't quit: j

            • You completely ignore my point that you can't bring in a global concept like "Godwin's Law" and then attempt to limit its application to the scope of Slashdot.

              Well, you certainly haven't shown in any meaningful way your claim of the race card being played with high frequency anywhere. You go with racism baiting at least weekly here, and yet you can't point out a single time where someone actually called you racist in response to your criticism of Obama alone.

              Not. One. Single. Time.

              Nor can you point out an example where it has happened in congress. By comparison the "Un-American" card was played at least weekly in congress from 12 September 2001 until

              • I have shown a reason article quoting public figures, and a comedy clip mocking an effect. Surely you're not contending that Jon Stewart would spend that much air time mocking an effect which was not so commonplace in our culture that his audience would not immediately grasp the mockery?
                Any reasonable person in this country knows precisely what I'm speaking of, and any reasonable reader reading the evidence I've shown would agree with me.
                At least you're in character in your rejection of reasonableness.

                • I have shown a reason article quoting public figures

                  You forgot to capitalize the R there, as there was nothing reasonable about the article you quoted, even though it was on a website that (ironically) purchased the domain reason.com.

                  Being as it did not evenly quote public figures, but instead took soundbites from them, it can not reasonably be called "quoting" them. Conservatives got their panties in a bunch when Michael Moore took a quote from GWB to a room of wealthy people saying "you're my base", yet here you have conservatives doing the exact same

                  • Being as it did not evenly quote public figures, but instead took soundbites from them, it can not reasonably be called "quoting" them.

                    What you say is true. Reason.com did not replicate everything these public figures ever said, so you can always play the "out of context" card with a straight face and a full diaper.

                    • Being as it did not evenly quote public figures, but instead took soundbites from them, it can not reasonably be called "quoting" them.

                      Reason.com did not replicate everything these public figures ever said

                      Being as it would have been counter to their agenda, your hyperpartisan "news" source didn't even "report" enough of what was said to know what the person was talking about.

                      I'm still waiting for you to give even one example of the situation you are so convinced is pervasive throughout this nation of ours. Show me one case of an elected official or a representative of the Obama Administration leveling a claim of someone criticizing the president being racist only because they criticized what he said or d

                  • This time you aren't even doing a good job of racist biting

                    Mostly because I have never sought to do such. Racists are not to my taste, since we seem to be having much fun with typos and editing in this thread.

                    • So that is how you will give up on supporting your claim? I made a typo of "biting" instead of "baiting" and you use that as an excuse to not provide even one example to support your claim. Wow, that isn't even as good as phoning it in. This is more like asking your dog to phone it in.
                    • I mocked your mockery of my failure to capitalize "Reason" earlier in the thread. I mock your mockery [theothermccain.com], because your attempt to take a global concept like "Godwin's Law" and narrow its scope to Slashdot only is at least in the top 10 damn_registrars illogical farces of these last years. My non-existent dog decorates your lawn.
                    • Wow, so you've again taken your inability to read what I write on slashdot, and bragged about it on your own blog? Congratulations. Will this bring more uninformed people here to slashdot to comment on my JE? That seemed to have rather embarrassing results - for your cause - last time.

                      Here's a hint. I did not narrow Godwin's Law.

                      I pointed out that Godwin's Law has a similar structure in general discussion online with the "Noboma's Law" that I postulate here. Much as Hitler and Nazis come up almos
                    • From above [slashdot.org]

                      Can you show me even one time where you were called racist on slashdot for opposing Obama? You have tried endlessly to get me to call you that, but have never succeeded. Have you been able to get anyone else to?

                      Your motorized, radio-controlled goalposts are spiffy.

                    • Can you show me even one time where you were called racist on slashdot for opposing Obama? You have tried endlessly to get me to call you that, but have never succeeded. Have you been able to get anyone else to?

                      Your motorized, radio-controlled goalposts are spiffy.

                      I did not move the goalposts. Your claim is utterly invalid. I have been repeatedly asking you to provide an example of someone calling you racist for opposing Obama, and you have so far failed. Every. Single. Time.

                      You have many times placed the completely unsupported claim of people calling anyone who opposes Obama a racist, even though you have not produced a single example of it actually happening. You gave a partisan link to a bunch of content-free soundbites which did absolutely nothing to hel

                    • I have been repeatedly asking you to provide an example of someone calling you racist for opposing Obama, and you have so far failed.

                      I mean, I haven't bored you with Twitter links, and instead offered general example of the phenomenon. Because I guess I owe you stuff, or something. Nob.

                    • I have been repeatedly asking you to provide an example of someone calling you racist for opposing Obama, and you have so far failed.

                      I mean, I haven't bored you with Twitter links, and instead offered general example of the phenomenon

                      A general example implies examples were given. You have so far given not one. Not. One. Single. Example.

                      You are really just making yourself look silly when you continue to insist that something exists simply by virtue of your insistence of it existing. If it was anywhere remotely close to approximately coming near to almost being vaguely similar to almost the right order of magnitude of occurrence that you claim, you should have no trouble whatsoever in coming up with actual examples.

                      The fact t

                    • Ah, you're just rejecting all evidence. Got it. You're in character. It's all !good.

                    • Ah, you're just rejecting all evidence.

                      No, that is not correct. I have pointed out that you have given references that refute - or at the very best fail to support - your argument. If the argument that you keep failing to make had anywhere near as much support as you have many times claimed it to have, you could have offered supporting evidence. Yet you have offered exactly no evidence.

                      I have given very specific reasons why what you have offered does not help your claim.

                    • Meh
                    • A three letter response is all you can offer after seeing your argument completely dismantled?

                      I have just demonstrated for all to see that you cannot support your repeated allegations - indeed one of your favorite conspiracy theories - in any way, shape or form, and you say "meh". This leaves me to wonder how many other times you have been willingly lying about things like this for no apparent reason. Of course a big part of your top conspiracy theory is also complete bullshit and you that doesn't sto
                    • Now reduced to only two letters. Can you wrap it up with a 1 letter response? Will slashdot allow a zero-character response?

                    • Will slashdot allow a zero-character response?

                      All of your responses are bereft of character, so: yes.
                      http://instantrimshot.com/ [instantrimshot.com]

                      Trying to bring this tiresome thread to a conclusion: accusations of racism have been used to divide people and silence opposition.
                      It may very well be the case that the incidence of arguing in bad faith over race specifically has tapered off, especially post-2102, and especially since the ObamaCare crap-nado was "launched".
                      But fret not. The dishonest will find fresh fling-able feces. Stand by for the same idiocy that said

                    • Trying to bring this tiresome thread to a conclusion

                      I would imagine it is tiring for you to keep trying to come up with excuses to believe in your side of the argument while watching it end up completely dismantled by reality. You could hardly bring a less meritorious argument up if you tried - at least, based on what you have presented thus far.

                      accusations of racism have been used to divide people and silence opposition

                      I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on this, as your initial claim of it sounded plausible. You were so insistent that this was widespread, so I thought you might have had a reason to level that cl

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