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Journal heliocentric's Journal: When pledging you must say "Under God" 23

We are all probably aware of the fight by one Michael Newdow to have the phrase "Under God" removed from the defined pledge of allegiance (as I understand it, those who wish to add the phrase are welcomed, at least that is my feeling on the matter).

I can personally claim to never have stated the phrase when I was in school. I happened to use the similar sounding phrase "underpants" to make it look less like I was skipping said phrase. Unfortunately, this doesn't have the same lip movements as "under God," but no one noticed (for more information move your lips to the words "Olive Juice" when next you see your mother-in-law).

Well, skip "Under God" no more! Apparently this isn't an optional part in some locations.

Perhaps the pledge should end with, "With liberty and justice for those under God."

PS. When I said I used "underpants" that was only part of the story. This was the pledge I used:

I plead alignment
To the flakes
Of the united snakes of a merry cow
And to the Republicans
For which they scam
One nacho
Underpants
Invisible
With licorice
And jugs of wine
For owls

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When pledging you must say "Under God"

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  • by trmj ( 579410 )
    "elephant shoes" works just as well
    • I used to say, "under blob". No one ever noticed, or at least never said anything to me about it. I think they should take out the phrase. Especially since it was not part of the original pledge, but was added in the last century by the "godless commie" propaganda machine.

    • "i want to vacuum"

      especially effective with emphasis on the first syllable of "vacuum."
  • ...what a 'witchit stand' was.
    You know, "...and to the Republic, for witchit stands..."
    I mean, what do you use them for?
    • You use them for storing witchits. What the fuck do you think they're for?
    • I always wondered why God's name was "Hello", as in the Lord's Prayer:


      Our father,
      Which art in heaven (what art, exactly? Picasso?)
      Hello be thy name.


      • Actually it's not hello, it's hallowed. Hallowed means "holy"...

        Soe Jesus is saying "Hallowed be thy name". In other words, God's name is Holy.
        • Yes I know that! The point is, as a 5 year old child, having only heard the Lord's prayer and not seen it written down, and never having heard the word "hallowed" before, the internal error-correction protocol changed the word to "hello", then the rest of the parser duly wondered why his name was "hello".
      • It's "hallowed" you nerd :P

        My opinion on this goes a little something like so: it's a public school not private, they shouldn't have to do/say anything religious. However, let the private school kids do that.

        I think it is good to have a pledge to our countries flag and to everything american. I think that since it's a government sponsored school the kids and teachers will be okay if they say some kind of thingy about being loyal to the person putting you through school every morning.

        When our curren
        • Yes I know it's "hallowed"! But I'd never heard the word as a five year old and the internal error correction changed it to "hello" and then the parser wondered why his name was "hello".
    • Lil hispanic kid comes home from a baseball game and is telling his mother how everyone there was so nice to him.

      The mother inquires as to how he was treated and he explains that before the game everyone stood up and asked if he could see.

      "Jose, can you see?..."
  • School officials said they've punished Hess for misusing school equipment to deliver a personal message.

    Yes, yes, much better that he recites something that he doesn't agree with, which in essence, is delivering someone elses mandated message or belief. Assholes.

  • ...they had a similar thing. They had to sing "Die Partei."

    We used to have assemblies once a week at primary school, and once a fortnight at secondary. There was often a religious theme and the lucky Jehovas managed to escape. When I was nine I was subject to the ultimate humiliation. We all had to write a prayer. Mine was chose to be read out... :-(

  • by Sloppy ( 14984 ) *
    What shocks me is that there is a law at all, that requires the pledge.

    That makes it just be words, instead of an actual pledge. If it's just something the students are required to echo, then it is not an assertion stated on their honor, and it means nothing.

    That's sad, and the people of that state should get rid of that destructive law, ASAP. Cheapening honor by having people state empty creeds, can't be good for their kids' character. And what if a kid actually wants to pledge allegiance? A mandat

  • [Please note my deep sarcastic voice]

    This is just another example of how Christians are oppressed in the US today. To not say "Under God" is violating the First Amendment rights of all Christians to worship when and where and how they desire.

    It is shameful how the founders of this country (Christians) are treated by the minority secular community. Shameful.

    [Serious now]
    Good for him. At the very least he caused students, parents, and teachers to discuss the issue. ;)
  • IMHO, I think that if you're not religious, you shouldn't have to say "under God". Its hypocritical and disrespectful to yourself as an honest person and disrespectful to God as you're just going through the motions and don't really mean it.

    "Underwear" is great.

    For the record, I'm religious.

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